fleabay sniping software ?
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shadytree

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8,291 posts

279 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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I'm fed up getting beaten in the last 30 seconds. Does anyone use a sniping program or know anything about them ?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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Chap in the office I used to work in used to swear by AuctionSniper.

shadytree

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279 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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Any idea how they work?

Plotloss

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Friday 28th April 2006
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shadytree said:
Any idea how they work?


They sit refreshing the auction page in the background.

From each request to read the page they extract the winning bidder, the winning bid value and the time remaining.

When the conditions are met on bid value they watch until the time gets to a point which means your bid will be the last one and bid for you.

Another option would be to use the ebay RSS feeds and sit there watching a load of auctions at once.

shadytree

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Friday 28th April 2006
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Plotloss said:

Another option would be to use the ebay RSS feeds and sit there watching a load of auctions at once.


What via a widget type thingamybob ? can re-enter bids on it as well ?

chim_knee

12,689 posts

287 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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I use AuctionStealer.

Register (free) with an email address only (no address, credit card etc)

Ignore offer to upgrade unless you want better than "the final 10 seconds"

Set up a snipe, it'll ask for the ebay number (top right hand corner of the auction). It'll go off and check and come back telling what it thinks you are sniping. Confirm, add your max bid and then wait.

You'll get an email confirming the new auction snipe having been set up.
You'll also get outbid notices if the amount should go above your limit before the snipe.
And an email with the result of the snipe.

Not failed to win a snipe where I haven't been out-bid during the normal time of the auction - which is fine because that means it's gone above what is the most I'd pay anyway.

shadytree

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Friday 28th April 2006
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chim_knee said:
I use AuctionStealer.

Register (free) with an email address only (no address, credit card etc)

Ignore offer to upgrade unless you want better than "the final 10 seconds"

Set up a snipe, it'll ask for the ebay number (top right hand corner of the auction). It'll go off and check and come back telling what it thinks you are sniping. Confirm, add your max bid and then wait.

You'll get an email confirming the new auction snipe having been set up.
You'll also get outbid notices if the amount should go above your limit before the snipe.
And an email with the result of the snipe.


Not failed to win a snipe where I haven't been out-bid during the normal time of the auction - which is fine because that means it's gone above what is the most I'd pay anyway.



and it's free?

web based or you need a download?

>> Edited by shadytree on Friday 28th April 11:07

chim_knee

12,689 posts

287 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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shadytree said:
chim_knee said:
I use AuctionStealer.

Register (free) with an email address only (no address, credit card etc)

Ignore offer to upgrade unless you want better than "the final 10 seconds"

Set up a snipe, it'll ask for the ebay number (top right hand corner of the auction). It'll go off and check and come back telling what it thinks you are sniping. Confirm, add your max bid and then wait.

You'll get an email confirming the new auction snipe having been set up.
You'll also get outbid notices if the amount should go above your limit before the snipe.
And an email with the result of the snipe.


Not failed to win a snipe where I haven't been out-bid during the normal time of the auction - which is fine because that means it's gone above what is the most I'd pay anyway.



and it's free?

web based or you need a download?

>> Edited by shadytree on Friday 28th April 11:07
Free and web-based.

Edit: Just checked - yep, free. Once registered and logged-in, on left hand side is "Auctions"... it's here that you enter the auction number.

www.auctionstealer.co.uk
>> Edited by chim_knee on Friday 28th April 11:12

>> Edited by chim_knee on Friday 28th April 11:13

shadytree

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Friday 28th April 2006
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cool cheers Chim, blocked here though will try later.

Need it to win a couple of Auctions whilst at Pistonfest

zumbruk

7,848 posts

290 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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I have a stupid question; What benefit does this have over just submitting a large bid directly to eBay? You only pay one "interval" above the highest losing bid anyway.


timsta

2,779 posts

276 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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Bidding directly pushes the price up. If you waited then the price theoretically stays lower.

esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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There's also "Auction Sentry" It appears to work OK.

zumbruk

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290 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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timsta said:
Bidding directly pushes the price up. If you waited then the price theoretically stays lower.


Huh? If the price is currently £1, with 50p increments (I'm not sure how eBay decides what the increment is) and you bid £25, it places a bid of £1.50 on your behalf, and goes on to automatically outbid anyone who places a bid, up to £25.50, when you lose. If there are no further bids after your initial £25 one, you pay £1.50, not £25.

I still don't see what you gain by sniping over just using eBays automatic bidding.

dtmpower

3,972 posts

275 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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it means the price is not pushed til the last minute and other bidders are not aware of your interest .... increases chance of winning and with a lower price..

chim_knee

12,689 posts

287 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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it also means that the seller won't know what bids are being placed and so can't shill bid to push the price up.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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Can heartily recommend AuctionSniper, though I'm just about to run out of free snipes. Can set the time down below 10 secs to beat the nasty free software types

Have won auctions wayyyy below where I would have been if I'd been bidding manually.

zumbruk

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290 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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dtmpower said:
it means the price is not pushed til the last minute and other bidders are not aware of your interest .... increases chance of winning and with a lower price..


They aren't aware, anyway. All that happens is that when you place a bid, you get an almost instantaneous outbid, so sniping wouldn't gain you anything.

Sorry, but I still don't see the point.

chim_knee

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Friday 28th April 2006
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zumbruk said:
dtmpower said:
it means the price is not pushed til the last minute and other bidders are not aware of your interest .... increases chance of winning and with a lower price..


They aren't aware, anyway. All that happens is that when you place a bid, you get an almost instantaneous outbid, so sniping wouldn't gain you anything.

Sorry, but I still don't see the point.
If you show your hand early (i.e. your max bid) then other bidders have time then to think whether they want to out bid you. Especially annoying when they chose to do this via a snipe... best if you show your hand, as it were, when there is no time for others to react. no?

zumbruk

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290 months

Saturday 29th April 2006
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chim_knee said:
zumbruk said:
dtmpower said:
it means the price is not pushed til the last minute and other bidders are not aware of your interest .... increases chance of winning and with a lower price..


They aren't aware, anyway. All that happens is that when you place a bid, you get an almost instantaneous outbid, so sniping wouldn't gain you anything.

Sorry, but I still don't see the point.
If you show your hand early (i.e. your max bid) then other bidders have time then to think whether they want to out bid you. Especially annoying when they chose to do this via a snipe... best if you show your hand, as it were, when there is no time for others to react. no?


Ebay doesn't show what your maximum bid is. Only the amount required to outbid the current maximum by one increment. The only person who knows what your maximum bid is, is you.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Monday 1st May 2006
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Yes, but if the other bidder sees you bidding £10.50, the likelihood is that they will bid £11.00, thus depriving you of a pound as you end up bidding £11.50. Simple way to remember is that Auction Sniper et al work for you, not the seller, nor any other poor sod who might have wanted the item. They are there to sneak a last minute bid in, under the radar, so no-one else has a chance to react. They aren't fair.
Managed to get a ticket for Houx Annexe this way, after contacting the seller direct to see if he'd do a Buy It Now for slightly more than I ended up paying. He couldnt, so one snipe later...