AppleMac laptop pricing.
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_deano

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7,414 posts

283 months

Monday 29th May 2006
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Do Apple computers set a certain price for their computers and laptops? I'm looking at getting one of the new Apple Mac laptops but all the prices that i have seen so far are the same (i've only been to the Apple store and John Lewis in bluewater).
Any insight would be helpful.

Thanks

Dean

tog

4,964 posts

258 months

Monday 29th May 2006
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There's very little variation in Mac pricing, especially for a new models. I'd think that the best you'll do will be if a dealer throws in some extra memory at a discount, or a carry bag or some such goody. End of line or discontinued models can be bargains though.

rednotdead

1,256 posts

256 months

Monday 29th May 2006
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Or if you know someone who is a student or teacher/lecturer you can get a c15-20% discount by ordering from the education shop................

magic torch

5,781 posts

252 months

Monday 29th May 2006
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A dealer might only make £20 on a top of the range G5.

There's more variation in the extras such as RAM. There's also a lot of movement in the Applecare extended warranty, which I think is essential.

I'd try and get a deal on the overall package.

I was never here ok

robbieduncan

1,993 posts

266 months

Monday 29th May 2006
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Do Apple fix their prices?

Officially I'm sure they'd say that they don't. Realistically they do.

As suggested you can either try and buy at Educational prices, or pick one up next time you fly somewhere as it will be VAT free (Dixons at the airport).

magic torch

5,781 posts

252 months

Monday 29th May 2006
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robbieduncan said:
Do Apple fix their prices?


No, but the places you're supposed to buy from are often more expensive than certain on-line retailers. The margins are very very low.

I could give exact figures, but not on a public forum, or anything that could be traced to me.

Dean, if you want to e-mail me what you're looking for I'm sure I could point you in the right direction.

cyberface

12,214 posts

287 months

Monday 29th May 2006
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It's tricky getting decent discounts on new Apple kit. Magic Torch has the inside line

One trick I've often used is to buy from John Lewis, since the only real support I need for Apple kit is to be able to exchange a unit if it's faulty... John Lewis not only emphasise their customer care credentials, they also add a year's no-bullshit warranty that they cover. The standard Apple warranty is one year, JL give you two years. This is a cheap alternative to buying Applecare. (For example, I bought a 15" powerbook from JL, used it for a week and decided it wasn't ideal portability-wise. JL were perfectly happy exchanging for a 12" powerbook with no quibbles. The retail Apple stores get a lot of chancers and can be very stubborn about replacements). JL may not have the latest kit on display but they can order anything you like in. Another money saving tip which I've done a few times is to ask the JL manager whether they'd like to dispose of a display model at a discount. This may be chancy with laptops (which tend to get bashed about by customers), YMMV. I bought a Powermac and 23" screen off display at Bluewater John Lewis with around 20% discount. Display model iBooks / MacBooks will probably be filthy, however the ally Powerbooks / MBPs clean up pretty easily.

One benefit of the restrictive pricing practices is that resale residuals are extraordinarily high for used computers... you can use a powerbook (sorry, MacBook... still hate the new names) for a year and then sell it on for a good proportion of the original price. Windows PC gear often loses virtually all its value second hand. Remember to price the residual into the overall cost of running a Mac as well as the ease of use - it often takes all the sting out of the higher initial cost if you work out the TCO over the likely time you'll be using the machine.

Oh yeah - last thing - the retail stores occasionally try to placate pissed off customers by offering a 'VIP' card that allows 10% off *one* transaction in that Apple store. It's a win-win since the customer usually is happy, and the store knows that they will make another sale when the customer uses the card. The manager in the Bluewater store gave me one when my iPod Nano cracked its screen rather than replacing the Nano... a move he instantly regretted when I bought a Quad and 30" screen with it

magic torch

5,781 posts

252 months

Monday 29th May 2006
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Yes, good advice from cyberface.

Apple are very very very very very reluctant to replace hardware.

We repaired one item seven times and it was away from the customer (a major international purchaser of Apple hardware) for over two months. They couldn't get Apple to swap it. Well known journalists seem to able to manage it though

JL do swap stuff out. Whereas an Apple Service Provider may have to wait several weeks for a spare part that is in high demand, then need to action the repair.

You'll need to consider data transfer if the unit is swapped, but Apple don't cover this anyway.

_deano

Original Poster:

7,414 posts

283 months

Monday 29th May 2006
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Thanks for the advice guys, been looking online e.g. Froogle and the prices are pretty much the same. Magic Torch you have mail

SlidingSideways

1,345 posts

262 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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Egg have a cashback deal with Apple's online store too. Equates to about £100 off a new MacBook, although you will have to wait up to a year to get it back.

Mr Beckerman

5,346 posts

257 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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The joys of the Apple education store!

_deano

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283 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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SlidingSideways said:
Egg have a cashback deal with Apple's online store too. Equates to about £100 off a new MacBook, although you will have to wait up to a year to get it back.


i have an egg card, but i can't find this

_deano

Original Poster:

7,414 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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picked up the Macbook today. by heck am i impressed with the Mac OS and software. It's so easy to use,except for the delete key as i can't find that yet, that i wish i got one sooner! These are built for entertainment in mind and i really am please about the purchase. Defo thumbs up to Apple from me

Mr Beckerman

5,346 posts

257 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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_deano said:
picked up the Macbook today. by heck am i impressed with the Mac OS and software. It's so easy to use,except for the delete key as i can't find that yet, that i wish i got one sooner! These are built for entertainment in mind and i really am please about the purchase. Defo thumbs up to Apple from me


Nice, aren't they!

The delete key is above the enter key.

cyberface

12,214 posts

287 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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_deano said:
picked up the Macbook today. by heck am i impressed with the Mac OS and software. It's so easy to use,except for the delete key as i can't find that yet, that i wish i got one sooner! These are built for entertainment in mind and i really am please about the purchase. Defo thumbs up to Apple from me

If you mean forward delete as per 'delete' on a PC, then try Fn+backspace on the MacBook.

_deano

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7,414 posts

283 months

Thursday 1st June 2006
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cyberface said:
_deano said:
picked up the Macbook today. by heck am i impressed with the Mac OS and software. It's so easy to use,except for the delete key as i can't find that yet, that i wish i got one sooner! These are built for entertainment in mind and i really am please about the purchase. Defo thumbs up to Apple from me

If you mean forward delete as per 'delete' on a PC, then try Fn+backspace on the MacBook.


That's the one, cheers. And yes they are nice. I was thinking of putting Bootcamp on the laptop to have XP on here as well, but to be honest i don't think i want to.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

289 months

Thursday 1st June 2006
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I'm loving my first mac, a macbook, OSX is lovely!

How do I get a # sign on there though, there are a few keys missing that confuse the life out of me

magic torch

5,781 posts

252 months

Thursday 1st June 2006
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m12_nathan said:
I'm loving my first mac, a macbook, OSX is lovely!

How do I get a # sign on there though, there are a few keys missing that confuse the life out of me


alt and 3

magic torch

5,781 posts

252 months

Thursday 1st June 2006
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Also, if you go

Blue Apple -> System Preferences...

International

Input Menu

Put a check by keyboard viewer

Click on the Country flag by the clock there'll be a Show Keyboard Viewer

Now when your press keys such as alt or Apple it'll show the result.

_deano

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7,414 posts

283 months

Thursday 1st June 2006
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sweet thanks for that.
Apple Mac for Dummies is my next purchase