Has Google blown up?
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FourWheelDrift

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92,355 posts

314 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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.com & .co.uk are just hanging or is it just a local DNS problem for me. All else seems to be working though.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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It's just you. Sorry.

FourWheelDrift

Original Poster:

92,355 posts

314 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Maybe I've been banned

zumbruk

7,848 posts

290 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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No, I'm having trouble with Google. Yahoo, PH & the beeb are fine.

Perhaps someone's launched a DoS attck on them?

aranell

868 posts

254 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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What ISPs are you all on? I've had a couple of people running BT Broadband complain, but not everyone on BT seems to be affected...just wondering if it's a coincidence or not

zumbruk

7,848 posts

290 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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aranell said:
What ISPs are you all on? I've had a couple of people running BT Broadband complain, but not everyone on BT seems to be affected...just wondering if it's a coincidence or not


Tiscali.

Perhaps the ISPs have decided to drop net neutrality early ...


FourWheelDrift

Original Poster:

92,355 posts

314 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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I'm on a BT Broadband connection.

Kinky

39,944 posts

299 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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I'm on BTB and no problems at all - all working 100% AOK - PH, Google, Beeb, etc.

K

FourWheelDrift

Original Poster:

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314 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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It comes and goes at the moment, right now it's working.

FourWheelDrift

Original Poster:

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314 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Now it's not working again.

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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from a command prompt what does a tracert to www.google.co.uk show?

Start->Run->cmd

tracert www.google.co.uk

FourWheelDrift

Original Poster:

92,355 posts

314 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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It's working for now, I'll do it when it breaks down again.

Frik

13,690 posts

273 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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It's a familiar feeling to some of us on NTHell.

Unusually not this time though.

Mrs Trackside

9,299 posts

263 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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It's not working for me. I'm on BT broadband

I had trouble with PH a couple of weeks ago.

hut49

3,544 posts

292 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Dead as a dodo for me too!

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Mrs T, if you can't get to google but can get to other sites, it will be for one of four main reasons.

1.) Google is down. This is exceedingly unlikely.
2.) You can't get DNS resolution for google. This would likely be down to your ISPs DNS servers not working.
3.) DNS and Google are both fine, but you have a problem somewhere inbetween you and Google that stops you from getting to the servers.
4.) Your ISP uses proxy servers which aren't working correctly.

2, 3 and 4 are far far more likely to be the cause. There could be other explanations but it gets harder to test for these.

Some checks you can run: Try the tracert test I mentioned above - see what happens. You would expect to see something like this:

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [66.102.9.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms localhost.domain.dom [xx.xx.xx.xx]
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 62.7.60.33
3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms core2-pos6-2.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.9.253]
4 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms core2-pos1-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.65.121]
5 28 ms 8 ms 8 ms 195.66.226.251
6 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 195.219.96.70
7 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms ix-9-2.core2.LDN-London.Teleglobe.net [195.219.67.206]
8 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 72.14.238.242
9 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms 216.239.49.254
10 36 ms 25 ms 19 ms 64.233.174.113
11 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms 72.14.232.239
12 38 ms 32 ms 32 ms 64.233.174.18
13 29 ms 36 ms 35 ms 66.102.9.104

Trace complete.


If this all works as above, then both DNS and connectivity are fine, leaving the only likely cause to be "4" - stinky ISP equipment..

Edited by _dobbo_ on Monday 17th July 21:52

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Just re-reading that and marvelling at how many times I managed to use the word likely in such a short time.

hut49

3,544 posts

292 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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So here's the tracert report

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [66.249.93.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.1
2 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms esr1.ealing5.broadband.bt.net [217.47.155.140]
3 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms 217.47.155.13
4 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms 212.140.233.1
5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 217.41.168.66
6 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms 217.41.168.78
7 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms 217.41.168.54
8 9 ms 10 ms 10 ms 217.47.87.242
9 9 ms 10 ms 10 ms core2-pos11-1.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.17.21
3]
10 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms core2-pos1-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.6
5.121]
11 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 195.66.226.251
12 17 ms 17 ms 18 ms if-7-0.core1.LHX-London.teleglobe.net [195.219.1
5.214]
13 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms if-1-3.mcore3.LHX-London.teleglobe.net [195.219.
196.13]
14 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms if-6-0.core1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231
.80.29]
15 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms Vlan4.msfc1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231.
82.185]
16 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms Vlan198.msfc1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.23
1.82.194]
17 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms 64.233.175.246
18 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 72.14.233.83
19 24 ms 21 ms 32 ms 66.249.94.54
20 24 ms 22 ms 21 ms 66.249.93.104

Trace complete.

So it looks like BT broadband is the culprit (for me)

Mrs Trackside

9,299 posts

263 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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I think it's likely to be BT, especially as we have 3 computers at home and they all had :

problems with seeing my smilies which are hosted on photobucket

problems getting onto pistonheads when it was working fine for friends and working fine from work.

Now I've got problems with google.

hut49

3,544 posts

292 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Interesting - if I enter http://66.102.11.99/ I get to the Google UK site and the search engine works fine. If I enter www.google.co.uk I get to the same webpage (apparently) but the search function doesn't work? Doesn't this suggest a DNS problem?

ANyway, if you're having a problem with Google try the above