Should computer fans suck or blow?
Should computer fans suck or blow?
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scared but happy

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24,147 posts

259 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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Odd question I know, but in this heat my computer seems to be hitting meltdown. So if I put a fan in it does it suck the heat out or blow cold over the components? I have seen a few machines and even they seem to be confused on the issue.
So what is the correct procedure?

thepassenger

6,962 posts

265 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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Simple answer "depends".
Complex answer "depends."

You can devise really complex cooling systems for PC's using positive or negative pressure (i.e. all the fans empty air and vents bring in the cool or vice versa). Generally speaking however what usually happens is that the front fans draw air in (suck) and the rear fans extract (blow).
Fans on the side generally bring air in and if you've added a blowhole to the top then it will be uses as an additional extractor. I have seen a few people who are handy with a Dremel add intakes at the very base of the systems as well.

If you really want the best cooling though it's time to drop air and move to water, but that seems to be more of a geek/hobbiest thing (water cooled AMD64/ Nv5950U pulling PVR/media duty here).

Edited by thepassenger on Friday 21st July 21:18

Platinum

2,101 posts

253 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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thepassenger said:
Generally speaking however what usually happens is that the front fans draw air in (suck) and the rear fans extract (blow).


Thats what mine does.

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Saturday 22nd July 2006
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extract, don't suck.

i'm sure i read something that they are not equal.

scared but happy

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24,147 posts

259 months

Saturday 22nd July 2006
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So ... it seems the world is undecided then?
I can see the point of heat/air flowthrough but as I (like most) have it under a desk perhaps it would be better to suck** out of the front as well?

**sorry extract


>>>>Update
I have stuck a thermal probe into the case and its reading about 34C. External room is reading 28.5C so is that OK?

Edited by scared but happy on Saturday 22 July 16:04

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Saturday 22nd July 2006
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scared but happy said:

I have stuck a thermal probe into the case and its reading about 34C. External room is reading 28.5C so is that OK?


one of the two self built servers in my office runs at about 47degrees internally. the other runs between 34 on a cold day and 54 on a very hot day (although its side is now removed and runs constantly at between 42 and 44).

34 shouldn't be a problem.

sjg

7,682 posts

295 months

Saturday 22nd July 2006
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They key really is getting good airflow. IME any side fans, blowholes and the like just bugger that up. The reason for pulling air in at the front and pushing it out of the back is because the typical tower case has space for fans lower at the front; as hot air rises you want to extract from the higher point.

Keep an eye on temperatures but there's no point going overboard, as long as they're not excessive in this weather then it'll be fine.

vrooom

3,763 posts

297 months

Saturday 22nd July 2006
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Bottom fan sucks cold air. then rise up in case taking the heat off harddrives, cpu, gfx card, then case fan at top back suck out hot air....

pdV6

16,442 posts

291 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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The main reason for thinking about where the fans sit and whether they suck or blow is that you need to get the cool air to actually pass over the hottest components on its way through the case, or else its just a pointless exercise!

Q: In your fairly typical setup with a tower under the desk, where's the best source of cool air?
A: The room.

Therefore, suck it in from the front and exhaust it at the back. Yes, it'll get hot behind your desk but who cares?

If you're really worried about it, tidying up the cables inside the box (especially any flat ribbon cables) so that they're not impeding the airflow can make a huge difference. I used to have terrible trouble with heat, as the PC lives in the loft room and the room gets stupidly hot in this kind of weather. Ths year I added an extra inlet fan at the front of the case and changed all the flat ribbon cables for round ones and even though the ambient temperature in the room is higher than ever before the PC is hanging in there.

scared but happy

Original Poster:

24,147 posts

259 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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I have tried sucking front, blowing back but it gets VERY hot under the desk (in a corner/next to wall). I have also changed the cables to those funky round ones to help with the air flow. But I will say that I have now moved the extraction fans to the top of the PC and this has helped (thanks). I am now wondering if I need a huge one on the side to help as well.
BTW if they need to extract heat as much as possible from major components it does seem daft to have the computer motherboard on its side and also its the wrong way round if you think about it as the plug in boards (for example) the Nvidia graphics card has a fan, BUT its underneath! If the heat rises it will heat the board up so how can I dissapate the (trapped) heat?

bigdods

7,175 posts

257 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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my 2p worth....

I was suffering huge heat problems with the Intel CPU going into slowdown to save itself all the time, even when cool in the room. At the time I just had a crappy 120 low flow fan extracting at the back. So I replaced it with a higher airflow 120, added a low airflow at the front blowing over the hard drives then into the case, then another low airflow in the side over the graphics card. Brought the temp down in the PC nicely so it stopped overheating but CPU was still running very hot. Ended up putting an arctic cooling CPU cooler in (only £25!) now CPU runs cold all the time (or near as anyway).

Low flow fans used as they are quieter - and the arctic cooling fan is virtually silent.

voyds9

8,490 posts

313 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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Been that hot recently thermal paste on my processor has melted. Keep getting alarms that fan not running/running slow. CPU temp only 44C. Taking the opportunity to drop in a new fan (Zalman) and enlarge case fan.