Buying memory...
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NiceCupOfTea

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25,607 posts

281 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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Where's a good place to look - is it worth going for the top speed the board can cope with?

Want something solid and reliable, but not too pricey.

Need a gig, board takes 184-pin DIMMs - 2.5V DDR SDRAM (DDR400/333/266/200)

PJR

2,616 posts

242 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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www.crucial.com/uk
You cant go wrong with this place. Pretty cheap, very easy to find exactly the ram you need and über speedy (free) delivery.
Cheers, P

sp60

524 posts

289 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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Second that.
Use crucial for all our server and workstation upgrades.
Easy to use site, quick delivery, solid reliable product.

NiceCupOfTea

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25,607 posts

281 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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They do seem to be good - but a gig of DDR memory seems to be around 100 quid where it is available for half that elsewhere. Is it really worth paying double?

mr_yogi

3,288 posts

285 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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i use corsair RAM and it works well, you can get it from the usual suspects; Scan, Komplett, Dabs etc.

As for the speed there are two factors, speed and latency (CAS etc.).

For speed at least match the speed of the CPU FSB.

For latency it's up to you, for gaming lower latecy may get you a few fps here and there but it doesn't make a huge difference, so you'll have to ballence it with the extra cost.

You don't mention the CPU or chipset but i'm assuming it'll be dual channel so matched memory is recommended. Also the more chips you have the (slightly)slower the preformance (i.e. comparing 4x256Mb with 2x512Mb, assuming dual channel)

Hope that makes sense

NiceCupOfTea

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25,607 posts

281 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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mr_yogi said:

You don't mention the CPU or chipset but i'm assuming it'll be dual channel so matched memory is recommended. Also the more chips you have the (slightly)slower the preformance (i.e. comparing 4x256Mb with 2x512Mb, assuming dual channel)


Not bought the motherboard/processor yet probably be an AMD XP2600+, leaning towards a board with VIA or possibly SiS chipset, max FSB of 333MHz. DDR is dual channel right?

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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Rule #1: NEVER buy cheap memory...

mr_yogi

3,288 posts

285 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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NiceCupOfTea said:
DDR is dual channel right?


No, DDR is just faster(twice as. hence Double Data Rate) than SDRAM. Modern chipsets use two separate memory channels to double the memory bandwidth. However I don't think any Athlon XP chipsets used dual channel as there was no need, because the Athlon XP has a max FSB of 400Mz, and you can get DDR-400 (PC3200) which matches that perfectly.

mr_yogi

3,288 posts

285 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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Podie said:
Rule #1: NEVER buy cheap memory...


I'm not sure that's good advice, depends how cheap hehe

I've built lots of systems with cheap RAM from reputable companies, so called "Major" memory, which i guess just means unbranded, and they've been fine. Abviously if the machine is gonna take a pasting like a file server which is on 247 then buy better quality RAM, but i've never had any problems with the more affordable RAM in the past. The only reason I've gone with Corsair now is because I wanted the low latency stuff. Also I can imagine the lastest and greatest cheap RAM might not be the best choice as the process will be new but PC2700 or 3200 is so old hat I would have no questions over using "Major" memory for a desktop PC.

big_treacle

1,727 posts

290 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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Podie said:
Rule #1: NEVER buy cheap memory...


Agreed.

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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mr_yogi said:
Podie said:
Rule #1: NEVER buy cheap memory...


I'm not sure that's good advice, depends how cheap hehe

I've built lots of systems with cheap RAM from reputable companies, so called "Major" memory, which i guess just means unbranded, and they've been fine. Abviously if the machine is gonna take a pasting like a file server which is on 247 then buy better quality RAM, but i've never had any problems with the more affordable RAM in the past. The only reason I've gone with Corsair now is because I wanted the low latency stuff. Also I can imagine the lastest and greatest cheap RAM might not be the best choice as the process will be new but PC2700 or 3200 is so old hat I would have no questions over using "Major" memory for a desktop PC.


Some boards are VERY picky... some of the Shuttle boxes (for example) which are aimed at the budget / home user market are often targets for unbranded stuff... but this can (and does - I've seen it!) lead to problems. In fact, Shuttle's recommended memory is scarily expensive... type in "blue screen on shuttle SK43G" for a laugh...

mr_yogi

3,288 posts

285 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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Ah, well i've always stuck to Abit, ASUS, Gigabyte and Intel Boards

So it seems you can get cheap RAM or a cheap Mobo but not both hehe



Edited by mr_yogi on Friday 15th September 14:17

GregE240

10,857 posts

297 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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Podie said:
mr_yogi said:
Podie said:
Rule #1: NEVER buy cheap memory...


I'm not sure that's good advice, depends how cheap hehe

I've built lots of systems with cheap RAM from reputable companies, so called "Major" memory, which i guess just means unbranded, and they've been fine. Abviously if the machine is gonna take a pasting like a file server which is on 247 then buy better quality RAM, but i've never had any problems with the more affordable RAM in the past. The only reason I've gone with Corsair now is because I wanted the low latency stuff. Also I can imagine the lastest and greatest cheap RAM might not be the best choice as the process will be new but PC2700 or 3200 is so old hat I would have no questions over using "Major" memory for a desktop PC.


Some boards are VERY picky... some of the Shuttle boxes (for example) which are aimed at the budget / home user market are often targets for unbranded stuff... but this can (and does - I've seen it!) lead to problems. In fact, Shuttle's recommended memory is scarily expensive... type in "blue screen on shuttle SK43G" for a laugh...
Ah, the benefits of hindsight eh Pod? laugh

(totally agree - never buy cheap stuff)

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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GregE240 said:
Podie said:
mr_yogi said:
Podie said:
Rule #1: NEVER buy cheap memory...


I'm not sure that's good advice, depends how cheap hehe

I've built lots of systems with cheap RAM from reputable companies, so called "Major" memory, which i guess just means unbranded, and they've been fine. Abviously if the machine is gonna take a pasting like a file server which is on 247 then buy better quality RAM, but i've never had any problems with the more affordable RAM in the past. The only reason I've gone with Corsair now is because I wanted the low latency stuff. Also I can imagine the lastest and greatest cheap RAM might not be the best choice as the process will be new but PC2700 or 3200 is so old hat I would have no questions over using "Major" memory for a desktop PC.


Some boards are VERY picky... some of the Shuttle boxes (for example) which are aimed at the budget / home user market are often targets for unbranded stuff... but this can (and does - I've seen it!) lead to problems. In fact, Shuttle's recommended memory is scarily expensive... type in "blue screen on shuttle SK43G" for a laugh...
Ah, the benefits of hindsight eh Pod? laugh

(totally agree - never buy cheap stuff)


yes Wasn't unbranded though... it was Kingston ValueRAM...