Latest version of IE messing up my websites
Latest version of IE messing up my websites
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simpo two

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92,991 posts

295 months

Wednesday 1st November 2006
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Compared to the other inhabitants of this forum I'm a web numpty. I've made, and host, a few simple sites for clients and use FrontPage (because it's the only one I can understand and it does the job).

One of my sites www.craigwestturf.co.uk uses a background image set in a table of the same width. It works perfectly for me in both IE and Firefox, although my client says it tiles in FF. Up to now we've lived with it.

However he's now upgraded to the latest version of IE and tells me that the image is tiling for him, just like it in FF. This is odd as the table is set to a defind number of pixels... perhaps the browser is trying to make it full screen...?

Anyway, does anyone have an answer? How does it look to you? My idea to stop the browser expanding it is to make the table, say, 1280 px wide and place a column wide in the middle.

Graham@Reading

26,553 posts

255 months

Wednesday 1st November 2006
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Looks fine in FF1.5 and IE7 here

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

265 months

Wednesday 1st November 2006
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FF2 all is ok, both windowed and full screen.

simpo two

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92,991 posts

295 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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A bit more info I found out: he had IE6 but then downloaded IE7 for XP Home (SP2).

For some reason you and I can see it correctly but he can't - could his browser be set up in some odd way?

V8 EOL

2,782 posts

252 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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IE7 is supposed to be more W3C compliant than all other incarnations. You can use the W3C validator to check the compliance of your code. I took the liberty of plugging it in and got these results.. clicky clicky. I would start looking at the report and see if anything could relate to the problems he is seeing.

Also I think using frames coupled with a poorly formed meta tag might mean Craig's site isn't that high on the search engines.

Just some friendly suggestions!

simpo two

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92,991 posts

295 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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wavey

Hmm, looks like mostly spaces in the wrong place, easily fixed. What does 'valid' mean?

Didn't think I used frames but obviously I do, without realising. To me the site is simply a collection of pages connected by links...

Fortunately I don't make any claims to be a SEO wiz.

Thanks for the input, I had no idea all that stuff was going on.

V8 EOL

2,782 posts

252 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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simpo two said:
What does 'valid' mean?

The W3C organisation are a bit like ISO but for HTML, CCS & XML and other computer type stuff. The idea is that web browser developers and web developers are all working off a common standard... so when you put <H1>Heading</H1> a heading.

Being valid means you are much more likely to have the desired behaviour on your web site no matter what browser is used (assuming the browser is also compliant!).

If you are using a WYSIWYG editor like Frontpage you are likely going to get problems with compliance. It also doesn't matter how often you correct Fp, it will change it back! You can ditch Fp quite easily... try doing a google for "WUSIWUG web editor w3c compliant freeware" and see what you can find.

Edited by V8 EOL on Thursday 2nd November 13:26

simpo two

Original Poster:

92,991 posts

295 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Thanks - perhaps Microsoft will update FP to meet this standard. You'd expect an idiot-proof program to do these things automatically (well I would anyway!) as looking at html just makes my head go 'sproing'.

Still, I derive a certain perverse satisfaction from being a complete klutz at something. hehe

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

265 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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simpo two said:
Thanks - perhaps Microsoft will update FP to meet this standard. You'd expect an idiot-proof program to do these things automatically (well I would anyway!) as looking at html just makes my head go 'sproing'.

Still, I derive a certain perverse satisfaction from being a complete klutz at something. hehe


Sorry been all over the shop.
FrontPage is one of the most standard compliant things going *chortle* it's ahead of the curve in terms of technology *giggle*. Seriously though FrontPage and it's little brother FrontPage Express (if Microsoft are even still pushing that pile of pap) are pretty much the worst thing to be knocking up a website in

Example: You didn't know you were using frames.

Whilst it's probably no better something like NVU (a massive upgrade of the old Netscape Composer program) is pretty WYSIWIG and does try it's best to generate compliant code without bulking it up and padding it out with Microsoft specific cruft.
Something like erm... Notepad+ might help (or any freeware text utility which features code highlighting) you read the raw code itself as it will highlight blocks of code in colour for you.

sa_20v

4,114 posts

261 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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Looks ok to me, but i've found that IE7 acts more like Firefox in it's latest release.