Poxy Windows!!!! Pc keeps shutting down for no reason!!!!!
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Over the weekend I bought, downloaded and installed Conterstrike and and steam.
Ever since then, the bloody pc keeps just shutting down.
Fire it up,and it will load windows and then about 10 minutes later,windows will just shut down.
Tried uninstalling everything,tried sys restore, nothing seems to make any difference.
Thinking about reinstalling windows........if I can find the cd key.
Any ideas, its driving me mad.
TIA
F
Ever since then, the bloody pc keeps just shutting down.
Fire it up,and it will load windows and then about 10 minutes later,windows will just shut down.
Tried uninstalling everything,tried sys restore, nothing seems to make any difference.
Thinking about reinstalling windows........if I can find the cd key.
Any ideas, its driving me mad.
TIA
F
Hmmmmm, Love the old PC keeps shutting down problem. I bet Microsoft have a direct link to everybody's PC and think I know lets have a laugh and shut it down a few times that'll piss em off. Failing that I would check that the CPU is not overheating. Make sure the fan on the cpu is working and check the temps. A lot of motherboards have a built in monitor and you need to go into the bios to have a look and see if it sky rockets when turned on.
Ok. Does it shutdown (i.e. kill itself/gracefully halt) or reboot?
If possible pull up the Event Viewer (Control Panel > Administrative Tools) and see if anything appears just before the system goes bang.
If it's rebooting all the time and your running WinXP right click "My Computer" > Properties > Advanced. Make sure the "Automatically restart" box is NOT checked, this will present the blue screen instead of Windows just trying to recover.
Jot down anything pertinent from this blue screen (i.e. IRQ_NOT_LESS_EQUAL_TOO nv4disp.dll) or take piccie with a camera and post it
It might point us in the right direction
If possible pull up the Event Viewer (Control Panel > Administrative Tools) and see if anything appears just before the system goes bang.
If it's rebooting all the time and your running WinXP right click "My Computer" > Properties > Advanced. Make sure the "Automatically restart" box is NOT checked, this will present the blue screen instead of Windows just trying to recover.
Jot down anything pertinent from this blue screen (i.e. IRQ_NOT_LESS_EQUAL_TOO nv4disp.dll) or take piccie with a camera and post it
It might point us in the right direction Furyous said:
It justs shuts dwon as though you have clicked turn off.
Will have another play when I get home tonight.
Do have a feeling it may be heat related, problem has only raised its head since I started using the PC for gaming.
Will *hopefully* post more details later.
F
Will have another play when I get home tonight.
Do have a feeling it may be heat related, problem has only raised its head since I started using the PC for gaming.
Will *hopefully* post more details later.
F
If you suspect heat open the side panel up and poke inside. Grab a paint brush and remove the dust from all the heat sinks. Takes all of 5min and will eliminate it as a possibility.
Right.Just spent all bloody evening on the bastrad.
Safe mode scanned it for peace of mind, all clear.
Sys restore to 8 weeks ago.Took forever.
Has been running for about 4 hours, sys restore had jsut finished and then it shut down.
Rebooted and had a look at event log, its showed
Event id 7000
The SecuROM user Access service failed to start coz it couldnt find the file specified.
Does that mean anything ?
Will have the side off later and have a good clean out, but tbh its not that bad, I put some more ram in it last weekend, so know what the guts look like.
Safe mode scanned it for peace of mind, all clear.
Sys restore to 8 weeks ago.Took forever.
Has been running for about 4 hours, sys restore had jsut finished and then it shut down.
Rebooted and had a look at event log, its showed
Event id 7000
The SecuROM user Access service failed to start coz it couldnt find the file specified.
Does that mean anything ?
Will have the side off later and have a good clean out, but tbh its not that bad, I put some more ram in it last weekend, so know what the guts look like.
Furyous said:
The SecuROM user Access service failed to start coz it couldnt find the file specified.
Does that mean anything ?
Does that mean anything ?
SecuROM is a CD copy protection system. Have you installed any copy protected games recently?
See here for some suggested remedies:
www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12872224
Hope that helps!
[k]
[edited to add for clarity - Counterstrike/Steam doesn't use SecuROM as far as I know]
Edited by [k]ar| on Monday 20th November 23:30
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[edited to add for clarity - Counterstrike/Steam doesn't use SecuROM as far as I know]
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Nope it doesn't, so that'll be something left over from another game most likley. What have you recently uninstalled that's gamish and game on a CD or DVD?
If nothing, who else has access to the computer? Go ask them.
Once they've been happily chastised for this, hunt around google to looking for removal tips for that peice of copy protection.
[edited to add for clarity - Counterstrike/Steam doesn't use SecuROM as far as I know]
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Nope it doesn't, so that'll be something left over from another game most likley. What have you recently uninstalled that's gamish and game on a CD or DVD?
If nothing, who else has access to the computer? Go ask them.
Once they've been happily chastised for this, hunt around google to looking for removal tips for that peice of copy protection.
Lil Bro here... 
try this link http://xperiencexp.blogspot.com/2006/
Or this one.
http://forums.tweakguides.com/archive
Should sort it all being well.
try this link http://xperiencexp.blogspot.com/2006/
Or this one.
http://forums.tweakguides.com/archive
Should sort it all being well.
Ok, Im going to be running at the outer limits opf my knowledge here.PC ran fine last night for over 4 hours after I removed the securom thing.However, I did leave the side off it, to see.
Tonight, I put the side back on and it shut doen after 2 and bit hours.Event logs show clear, so I am suspecting heat as an issue.
1.Why is it suddenly a problem ? Im not doing anything different apart from a bit of gaming, and I can hear the fan speed up during this.
2.Is there any software that I can use to monitor temp and also maybe control the fan speed ?
pc is dell d5000.
Oh, and the shut downs occur without any gaming in progress, juts light use such as this.
Hope you can help, starting to piss me off lots now.
F
Tonight, I put the side back on and it shut doen after 2 and bit hours.Event logs show clear, so I am suspecting heat as an issue.
1.Why is it suddenly a problem ? Im not doing anything different apart from a bit of gaming, and I can hear the fan speed up during this.
2.Is there any software that I can use to monitor temp and also maybe control the fan speed ?
pc is dell d5000.
Oh, and the shut downs occur without any gaming in progress, juts light use such as this.
Hope you can help, starting to piss me off lots now.
F
Definetly sounds like heat.
Could be a build up of dust, failing thermal compound, weakening of the heatsink retention mechanism, CPU on slow thermal death (seem a few Athlon XP 1700+'s do this), PSU geting old and cranky.
In short anything. I'd scout out the board and make sure all fans are spinning correctly, the heatsink is firmly attached to the processor and that the PSU isn't making odd buzzing noises or getting overly warm.
As for monitoring the temps, not sure. I used to say MBM5 but it's not been updated in quite a while. It might work though.
Could be a build up of dust, failing thermal compound, weakening of the heatsink retention mechanism, CPU on slow thermal death (seem a few Athlon XP 1700+'s do this), PSU geting old and cranky.
In short anything. I'd scout out the board and make sure all fans are spinning correctly, the heatsink is firmly attached to the processor and that the PSU isn't making odd buzzing noises or getting overly warm.
As for monitoring the temps, not sure. I used to say MBM5 but it's not been updated in quite a while. It might work though.
Have a nose around in the BIOS you should be able to see the cpu temp in there somewhere. So next time the pc shuts down reboot asap and check the temp.(don't change anything in the bios unless you feel happy to do so!)
I give all the PC's in my house a good strip down and blow out with an airline every 6 months this stops the dust build up turning into a thermal blanket. If you go down this route do not let the airline spin the cpu fan as it will f**k the bearing.
I give all the PC's in my house a good strip down and blow out with an airline every 6 months this stops the dust build up turning into a thermal blanket. If you go down this route do not let the airline spin the cpu fan as it will f**k the bearing.
egomeister said:
ThePassenger said:
Definetly sounds like heat.
CPU on slow thermal death (seem a few Athlon XP 1700+'s do this)
CPU on slow thermal death (seem a few Athlon XP 1700+'s do this)
Do you know if this has happened with the 1800+ too? My computer started showing these symptons earlier this year...
It's the same vintage so I would suspect 'yes they can do this' although my actual experience of it happening (perpetual overheating, no matter what) is with 1700+'s.
ThePassenger said:
Definetly sounds like heat.
Could be a build up of dust, failing thermal compound, weakening of the heatsink retention mechanism, CPU on slow thermal death (seem a few Athlon XP 1700+'s do this), PSU geting old and cranky.
In short anything. I'd scout out the board and make sure all fans are spinning correctly, the heatsink is firmly attached to the processor and that the PSU isn't making odd buzzing noises or getting overly warm.
As for monitoring the temps, not sure. I used to say MBM5 but it's not been updated in quite a while. It might work though.
Could be a build up of dust, failing thermal compound, weakening of the heatsink retention mechanism, CPU on slow thermal death (seem a few Athlon XP 1700+'s do this), PSU geting old and cranky.
In short anything. I'd scout out the board and make sure all fans are spinning correctly, the heatsink is firmly attached to the processor and that the PSU isn't making odd buzzing noises or getting overly warm.
As for monitoring the temps, not sure. I used to say MBM5 but it's not been updated in quite a while. It might work though.
PC is only about 18 months old IIRC.cpu is Pentium 4 3.0 gig .No fan on the cpu, just a sink, held on by a bent paper clip kind of stylee.PSU is warm, but I wouldnt have said overly.
Its just done it again, so I have also removed the additional Kingston ram fitted last week too.
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