Wireless internet on trains

[rfisher]

So if I sit on the 7:05 using the free wireless internet service downloading lots of porn will they know who I am?

Just interested.

[shocker-z]

Not exacly but they might guess when your laptop is hovering around your chest! With a big on your face!

lol

They could in theory just put a program like wifi hopper on a laptop and see what SSID is where and so on and just walk till they get a strong signal.

Regards
Liam

[rfisher]

Presumably their system is logged and they know which sites have been visited and when?

I bet the log makes interesting reading.

[shocker-z]

Not sure exacly how they route you through to the actual internet as the train must connect wirelessly also?? but they will have a server somewhere probs 2003 server or somthing and yes you can see what traffic comes through.


Liam

[fidgits]

shocker-z said:

Not sure exacly how they route you through to the actual internet as the train must connect wirelessly also?? but they will have a server somewhere probs 2003 server or somthing and yes you can see what traffic comes through.


Liam

Ahh... let me explain.

Its part of the WiMax trial.

While inside the train you connect via traditional WiFi, this is then bridged to a WiMax transmitter from the train...

What is WiMax I hear you ask? Its the next generation in wireless connectivity.

Broadband speeds (actually up to 100Mb/s bandwwidth, but that will be shared) with cell ranges of up to several miles (compared with 100 feet from WiFi) - quite likely to offer broadband for the home in metropolitan areas, as well as roaming packages.

Intel have already developed their next gen WiFi chip that also supports it.

Based on 802.16e - should start to roll out next year!

[ThePassenger]

Sooner or later you will hit a gateway / proxy. That will probably be logging as much as possible, especially in a trial so they can fault find if need be.

So short answer: yes, they can see you browsing porn.

[fidgits]

ThePassenger said:

Sooner or later you will hit a gateway / proxy. That will probably be logging as much as possible, especially in a trial so they can fault find if need be.

So short answer: yes, they can see you browsing porn.

But they wont care - after all, with the advent of TV on demand on the web - they probably appreciate the streaming video tests you are putting their system through

[ThePassenger]

fidgits said:

ThePassenger said:

Sooner or later you will hit a gateway / proxy. That will probably be logging as much as possible, especially in a trial so they can fault find if need be.

So short answer: yes, they can see you browsing porn.

But they wont care - after all, with the advent of TV on demand on the web - they probably appreciate the streaming video tests you are putting their system through

Very true, that and inevitably the geeks running it will be male (or at least a high percentage at any rate) so you might well be pointing them at new and interesting places. That's assuming they don't block access to such things.

[arfur]

Virgin block access to most dodgy stuff and dont allow p2p sharing either ... much like a normal business setup ... Fair enough really. And yes they can see your attempts and trace it back to a mac address. As to tracking it to your seat, well not really unless you are the only person on the train using a laptop and surfing the web

[rfisher]

So what you really want is to use a Linux machine with MACChanger.

Like I said, just curious .

[anniesdad]

NUMPTY ALERT!!

So, I take my WiFi enabled laptop on the train with me - how do I access the internet without one of those 3G cards?

In fact how do I connect in a WiFi hotspot? I've never tried it....I'm too scared!

Edited by anniesdad on Friday 8th December 15:08

[_deano]

anniesdad said:

NUMPTY ALERT!!

So, I take my WiFi enabled laptop on the train with me - how do I access the internet without one of those 3G cards?

In fact how do I connect in a WiFi hotspot? I've never tried it....I'm too scared!

Edited by anniesdad on Friday 8th December 15:08

it's all witch craft and you need not worry yourself about it

[anniesdad]

_deano said:

anniesdad said:

NUMPTY ALERT!!

So, I take my WiFi enabled laptop on the train with me - how do I access the internet without one of those 3G cards?

In fact how do I connect in a WiFi hotspot? I've never tried it....I'm too scared!

Edited by anniesdad on Friday 8th December 15:08

it's all witch craft and you need not worry yourself about it

A bit like "how turbochargers work" then.....

Seriously though, how do I do it?.....

[fidgits]

anniesdad said:

_deano said:

anniesdad said:

NUMPTY ALERT!!

So, I take my WiFi enabled laptop on the train with me - how do I access the internet without one of those 3G cards?

In fact how do I connect in a WiFi hotspot? I've never tried it....I'm too scared!

Edited by anniesdad on Friday 8th December 15:08

it's all witch craft and you need not worry yourself about it

A bit like "how turbochargers work" then.....

Seriously though, how do I do it?.....

the train has WiFi on it...

[Mr E]

fidgits said:

Based on 802.16e - should start to roll out next year!

Have they fixed the horrific interference issues yet?

[fidgits]

Mr E said:

fidgits said:

Based on 802.16e - should start to roll out next year!

Have they fixed the horrific interference issues yet?

no comment

[ThePassenger]

anniesdad said:

_deano said:

anniesdad said:

NUMPTY ALERT!!

So, I take my WiFi enabled laptop on the train with me - how do I access the internet without one of those 3G cards?

In fact how do I connect in a WiFi hotspot? I've never tried it....I'm too scared!

Edited by anniesdad on Friday 8th December 15:08

it's all witch craft and you need not worry yourself about it

A bit like "how turbochargers work" then.....

Seriously though, how do I do it?.....

Basically take your laptop on to an enabled train, find the network using either your WiFi adapters utility or the one built in to WinXP-SP2. One of three things will happen.
1. It will connect but attempts to surf the net will result in a web page appearing asking for a usierid/password.
2. It will ask you for a network key.
3. It will check that the MAC address of your card matches a pre-registered one and off you go.

The first two options will require you to register before attempting to use the system. The third might be dooable on the train itself.

[V8 EOL]

ThePassenger said:

1. It will connect but attempts to surf the net will result in a web page appearing asking for a usierid/password.

GNER offer this on the Mallard trains and it is free to first class users. Book early and first class is less than half the standard fare! GNER Explanation.

I use it all the time and it is brill...