Wifi causing headaches? Truth or not...
Wifi causing headaches? Truth or not...
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morningside

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24,147 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6

I disconnect mine ages ago so cannot comment. But if this is causing a problem what about other devices like Bluetooth (stuck on some drivers head all day).

Wont someone please think of the children....

polus

4,343 posts

256 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Bollox...

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Utter rubbish.

tinman0

18,231 posts

271 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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morons. world is full of them. and they work at the bbc apparently.

evil jack

1,649 posts

259 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Bollocks. Our airport basestation is in baby Evil Jacks room.

sheetstabuer

21,503 posts

246 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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when I hammer my wireless access point to my head it gives me a headache so must be true

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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And mobile phones give you AIDS, or cancer, or they cause evil green monkeys to escape from your rear... or something.

It's utter rubbish I'm afraid. Kids get headaches, kid complains about headache, parents see new WiFi equipment installed in school, parents blame WiFi.

toni896

2,188 posts

257 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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the kids should stop surfing the web from morning till night, go out and play with friends like normal social people.

a quick check with mates reveal none of us have suffered headaches that coinside with wifi installation.

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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toni896 said:
the kids should stop surfing the web from morning till night, go out and play with friends like normal social people.

a quick check with mates reveal none of us have suffered headaches that coinside with wifi installation.


The only way it could, thinking about it is around the time of installation. If you have lots of AP's going in and wall mounted at that, then you're looking at some minor drilling and cable running. This will throw up some dust.

But a good whip round with the hoover would sort it.

whatever

2,174 posts

301 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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morningside said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6

I disconnect mine ages ago so cannot comment. But if this is causing a problem what about other devices like Bluetooth (stuck on some drivers head all day).

Wont someone please think of the children....

rolleyes
A classic Post hoc ergo propter hoc argument, exactly the sort of reasoning that creates superstitions and other nonsensical beliefs.

Of course, that's not to say Wi-Fi doesn't or can't cause any ill effects, but that can't be shown from such a small and uncontrolled sample with so many confounding influences.

Anyway: young kids/teacher working on a computer for a period of time, concentrating on the screen, get a headache? How many of them have had an eye test recently?

TGAoW

158 posts

242 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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I love all of this "Mobile phone, microwave, bluetooth - deathray" rubbish. An average cellphone base station puts out 500watts ERP, I certainly wouldn't stand next to it for long periods, but it's peanuts compared with the 250kW (250,000w)a main site TV/radio transmitter station puts out (Wrotham, Sudbury, Sandy Heath et al) and has done for the last 30/40 years - yet no one asks for their TV to be turned off! The two services may be on different frequencies but it's still RF radiation.

dern

14,055 posts

310 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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toni896 said:
a quick check with mates reveal none of us have suffered headaches that coinside with wifi installation.
Same here including two small children.

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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TGAoW said:
I love all of this "Mobile phone, microwave, bluetooth - deathray" rubbish. An average cellphone base station puts out 500watts ERP, I certainly wouldn't stand next to it for long periods, but it's peanuts compared with the 250kW (250,000w)a main site TV/radio transmitter station puts out (Wrotham, Sudbury, Sandy Heath et al) and has done for the last 30/40 years - yet no one asks for their TV to be turned off! The two services may be on different frequencies but it's still RF radiation.


True enough, but am i right in thinking that incidences of cancer have increased in the last 100 years?

jamieboy

5,929 posts

260 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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scorp said:
TGAoW said:
I love all of this "Mobile phone, microwave, bluetooth - deathray" rubbish. An average cellphone base station puts out 500watts ERP, I certainly wouldn't stand next to it for long periods, but it's peanuts compared with the 250kW (250,000w)a main site TV/radio transmitter station puts out (Wrotham, Sudbury, Sandy Heath et al) and has done for the last 30/40 years - yet no one asks for their TV to be turned off! The two services may be on different frequencies but it's still RF radiation.


True enough, but am i right in thinking that incidences of cancer have increased in the last 100 years?
Probably, but our diets and lifestyles are significantly different today than they were 100 years ago, which I believe is much more relevant to the incidence of cancer.

arcturus

1,498 posts

294 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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TGAoW said:
I love all of this "Mobile phone, microwave, bluetooth - deathray" rubbish. An average cellphone base station puts out 500watts ERP, I certainly wouldn't stand next to it for long periods, but it's peanuts compared with the 250kW (250,000w)a main site TV/radio transmitter station puts out (Wrotham, Sudbury, Sandy Heath et al) and has done for the last 30/40 years - yet no one asks for their TV to be turned off! The two services may be on different frequencies but it's still RF radiation.


And don't forget Crystal Palace and Sutton Coldfield both have an ERP of 1MW. Yet still no one complains!!

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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dern said:
toni896 said:
a quick check with mates reveal none of us have suffered headaches that coinside with wifi installation.
Same here including two small children.

Funny that because I quite often get headaches that coincide with the installation of small children

wolves_wanderer

12,959 posts

268 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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jamieboy said:
scorp said:
TGAoW said:
I love all of this "Mobile phone, microwave, bluetooth - deathray" rubbish. An average cellphone base station puts out 500watts ERP, I certainly wouldn't stand next to it for long periods, but it's peanuts compared with the 250kW (250,000w)a main site TV/radio transmitter station puts out (Wrotham, Sudbury, Sandy Heath et al) and has done for the last 30/40 years - yet no one asks for their TV to be turned off! The two services may be on different frequencies but it's still RF radiation.


True enough, but am i right in thinking that incidences of cancer have increased in the last 100 years?
Probably, but our diets and lifestyles are significantly different today than they were 100 years ago, which I believe is much more relevant to the incidence of cancer.
Plus we aren't dying young as much, after all you have to die of something.

On topic, no headaches here from a wifi installation and I can see 2 neighbouring networks as well.

Marc W

3,782 posts

242 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Sounds like rubbish to me too. We've had it installed for a while now and not had any headaches, although there aren't any children in the house. Definately seems to be the parents jumping to the wrong conclusions.

roop

6,018 posts

315 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Utter balderdash. I have several WiFi transceivers located about the place one of which runs at significantly higher EIRP than a general installation would. No problems at all here nor for the 7 years since I first started wireless networks.

While on the subject, I don't have any headaches from my walkie talkies I have used for donkey's years not the high power hand-held UHF radio either which will dump 5W out on command through a stub antenna an inch from your head.

Typical placebo stuff. Put a massive big mean looking antenna next to someones house, tell them it's a high power microwave transmitter and shure as night follows day they will complain of headaches. Then follow up their complaint by informing them it has never been switched on.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

281 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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TGAoW said:
it's still RF radiation.

Yes and no.... TV tranmission are in the UHF band which being quite a low frequency with suitable long wave length just bounces off or go over stuff.

Phone masts and WiFi for that matter run in the GHz ranges with a wavelength of 10-15cm - this just happens to be the right frequency to exite water molecules, it's the reason your microwave cooker works. Humans have a lot of water in them and so readily absorb microwave raditaion.