Microstation Users.... I need a copy..... PLEASE HELP
Microstation Users.... I need a copy..... PLEASE HELP
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Rochester BMW

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3,314 posts

237 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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I am desperatly trying to get hold of a 'ahem' copy of Microstation to train myself up on...

If anyone reading this can help please please let me know....




(obviously Im talking about a paid for retail copy officer)


Edited by Rochester BMW on Wednesday 18th April 15:26

tigger1

8,481 posts

252 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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PC world??

I'm confused, because it sounds like you were after a copy, which I'm sure would breach the forum rules, and the law...unless of course you have a valid license!?

What do you need to learn? You could use OpenOffice as a (proper) free alternative.

Rochester BMW

Original Poster:

3,314 posts

237 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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tigger1 said:
PC world??

I'm confused, because it sounds like you were after a copy, which I'm sure would breach the forum rules, and the law...unless of course you have a valid license!?

What do you need to learn? You could use OpenOffice as a (proper) free alternative.



errrrrm...... bugger!

Looks like I was breaking forum rules (didn't know there was a rule about this, but sorry any hoos)... I will pop straight down to PC world...

Cheers
Lee


onomatopoeia

3,526 posts

248 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Rochester BMW said:
I am desperatly trying to get hold of a 'ahem' copy of Microstation to train myself up on...


My brother is one of the senior developers. I'm sure he could find an email address for their sales department if you can't find it yourself on bentley.com, alternatively there is an online store.

You are intending to buy yourself a copy I take it. It's really quite expensive hehe.

wanstead

174 posts

266 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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I doubt if anyone at PC world has ever heard of Microstation, and if they did have it you may you may not like the price (I think its around £4k now). eek

In the past you could get a fully working trial copy free when you joined the Bentley Community user group, not sure if that is still the case though.

Rochester BMW

Original Poster:

3,314 posts

237 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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wanstead said:
I doubt if anyone at PC world has ever heard of Microstation, and if they did have it you may you may not like the price (I think its around £4k now). eek

In the past you could get a fully working trial copy free when you joined the Bentley Community user group, not sure if that is still the case though.



PC world comment was 'tounge in cheek'

Bentley's website only offers a 30day trial...

To be continued on email maybe...




Edited by Rochester BMW on Wednesday 18th April 16:26

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

263 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Rochester BMW said:
wanstead said:
I doubt if anyone at PC world has ever heard of Microstation, and if they did have it you may you may not like the price (I think its around £4k now). eek

In the past you could get a fully working trial copy free when you joined the Bentley Community user group, not sure if that is still the case though.



PC world comment was 'tounge in cheek'





What the hell is a tounge?
Can you cure it?
*worriedforyou*

carrera2

8,352 posts

263 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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blindswelledrat said:
Rochester BMW said:
wanstead said:
I doubt if anyone at PC world has ever heard of Microstation, and if they did have it you may you may not like the price (I think its around £4k now). eek

In the past you could get a fully working trial copy free when you joined the Bentley Community user group, not sure if that is still the case though.



PC world comment was 'tounge in cheek'





What the hell is a tounge?
Can you cure it?
*worriedforyou*


Cross between a toilet and a lounge. Christ knows how or why you'd put one in your cheek though.

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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If you are moving to a company which uses Microstation... and you are AutoCAD user... then FLEE!! i mean it!

it is crappola. I suck a job out for 3 months where the practiced used 'station jumping ship to another practice ASAP when the oppotunity arose.

you can have my copy - i never want to start up that programe ever again.

Rochester BMW

Original Poster:

3,314 posts

237 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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lord summerisle said:
If you are moving to a company which uses Microstation... and you are AutoCAD user... then FLEE!! i mean it!

it is crappola. I suck a job out for 3 months where the practiced used 'station jumping ship to another practice ASAP when the oppotunity arose.

you can have my copy - i never want to start up that programe ever again.


Can I really have your copy???

Its just something that the Railway and Petrol Chemical industry use alot, and its an industry I'd like to get into...

I have been using AutoCAD for nearly 10 years, so im hoping the transition from CAD to Microstation to be quite easy as Im after teaching myself at home....



Edited by Rochester BMW on Wednesday 18th April 16:40

krusty

2,473 posts

280 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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There's not great deal of difference between V8 and 2006 onwards. If you know one you'll pick the other up quickly enough...... although I've always hated microstation / PDS personally

Tuna

19,930 posts

315 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Rochester BMW said:
I am desperatly trying to get hold of a 'ahem' copy of Microstation to train myself up on...


And the 30 day trial from the user forum isn't long enough? Good grief.

Rochester BMW

Original Poster:

3,314 posts

237 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Tuna said:
Rochester BMW said:
I am desperatly trying to get hold of a 'ahem' copy of Microstation to train myself up on...


And the 30 day trial from the user forum isn't long enough? Good grief.


well, Im going to get that, but im self employed so would like a little longer than 30 days if possible....

Rochester BMW

Original Poster:

3,314 posts

237 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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krusty said:
There's not great deal of difference between V8 and 2006 onwards. If you know one you'll pick the other up quickly enough...... although I've always hated microstation / PDS personally



I've never used Microstation although Ive touched on PDS and Civil 3D which was quite good i think as its able to render like Viz or Max can...

Is V8 is the latest version of Microstation?

(If anyone reading this knows of a company in Kent / London that might be intrested in training up a contract technician I'd love to hear from you...)

Thanks for the replies so far everyone

Tuna

19,930 posts

315 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Rochester BMW said:
Tuna said:
Rochester BMW said:
I am desperatly trying to get hold of a 'ahem' copy of Microstation to train myself up on...


And the 30 day trial from the user forum isn't long enough? Good grief.


well, Im going to get that, but im self employed so would like a little longer than 30 days if possible....



So you're just a thief? Not impressed.

Rochester BMW

Original Poster:

3,314 posts

237 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Tuna said:
So you're just a thief? Not impressed.


Thats a bit harsh... Im asking if anyone is willing to give me the program...

I never said I wasn't going to pay for it... Im just curious if theres any second hand ones that people no longer want, or are willing to sell on...

No stealing here...

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Rochester BMW said:
lord summerisle said:
If you are moving to a company which uses Microstation... and you are AutoCAD user... then FLEE!! i mean it!

it is crappola. I suck a job out for 3 months where the practiced used 'station jumping ship to another practice ASAP when the oppotunity arose.

you can have my copy - i never want to start up that programe ever again.


Can I really have your copy???

Its just something that the Railway and Petrol Chemical industry use alot, and its an industry I'd like to get into...

I have been using AutoCAD for nearly 10 years, so im hoping the transition from CAD to Microstation to be quite easy as Im after teaching myself at home....



Then your screwed... MS and AC work in subtly different ways. subtle but infurinating... especially when you sit there hitting ESC to cancel something and it does nothing.

but yes, you can. i have very little need for it, all my portfolio work has now been resaved as DWGs so i have no need for the prog

Neil_Bolton

17,113 posts

295 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Rochester - I thought you were wegded from your wafflings the other week - go and buy a copy.

Anyone who wants to help him does so offline.

Anyone who even points to anything related to getting a hooky copy, gets binned.

Sorry, but I used to work for an architects and we slogged long and hard to ensure we were correctly licensed, Microstation was costing us upwards of 85k a year in support, never mind the initial 3/4k license cost - so I sure as hell WILL NOT let the piracy of it be discussed on PH.

Edited to add: I was wondering whether they still did 30 day trials - again as someone has already pointed out - use that - it should be long enough to pick up - if you can use Autocad, then apart from everything being the wrong way round, its nearly the same.



Edited by Neil_Bolton on Wednesday 18th April 17:00

krusty

2,473 posts

280 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Neil_Bolton said:
so I sure as hell WILL NOT let the piracy of it be discussed on PH.


In fairness nobody has offered a copy of anything and to be honest your reply sounds like a typical High and mighty answer from a Mod. Are you telling me in all your years you've never used a piece of cracked software on your personal pc??
Rochester, you're going to struggle to find someone who will want to train you in Microstation as a contractor as funnily enough we get paid more than the permo's and they don't like that either. If you haven't used it before then a cracked copy isn't going to be much use to you either.

Neil_Bolton

17,113 posts

295 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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krusty said:
Neil_Bolton said:
so I sure as hell WILL NOT let the piracy of it be discussed on PH.


In fairness nobody has offered a copy of anything and to be honest your reply sounds like a typical High and mighty answer from a Mod. Are you telling me in all your years you've never used a piece of cracked software on your personal pc??


I'm not preaching about whether it should be used or not, I've done so in the past on my own pc, however I wouldn't come online to a commercial website and ask for help in getting so.

Part of my job here is to protect the PH side of things, as well as Haymarket, and knowing that Bentley like to throw their weight around when it comes to licensing, I don't want Mr Haymarket poking Paul/Ted in the ear when he gets a arsey letter regarding the open discussion of piracy of software.

Whether we do this ourselves offline is no business of PH's nor mine and as such thats why I asked it to be taken offline.

To respond in a commercial sense to training up for Microstation - its very much a 50/50 split out there - some businesses/people are pro-AutoCad, some are the other way with Microstation.

I was a Microstation bod when I supported it, as Autocad was an absolute git to manage from an IT support scenario (however we did have it...), and from what I undertstand the range of on-line support and elements/templates etc available for Microstation is higher.

However its been a few years, and the market may have moved on since...



Edited by Neil_Bolton on Wednesday 18th April 17:21
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