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I installed it last night since I was desperate to watch the new Derren Brown show.
Requires XP, Media Player 10 and it installs some other dubius Windows service (kservice.exe) that's known to cause all sorts of problems.
After suffering the installation and restarts required I then had to sign up. Fair enough I suppose, but after a good half hour of tedium all I now get is the IE "Page cannot be displayed" page inside the software.
I'll have to wait till the repeat on Wednesday now :-(
Requires XP, Media Player 10 and it installs some other dubius Windows service (kservice.exe) that's known to cause all sorts of problems.
After suffering the installation and restarts required I then had to sign up. Fair enough I suppose, but after a good half hour of tedium all I now get is the IE "Page cannot be displayed" page inside the software.
I'll have to wait till the repeat on Wednesday now :-(
mcc said:
I installed it last night since I was desperate to watch the new Derren Brown show.
Requires XP, Media Player 10 and it installs some other dubius Windows service (kservice.exe) that's known to cause all sorts of problems.
After suffering the installation and restarts required I then had to sign up. Fair enough I suppose, but after a good half hour of tedium all I now get is the IE "Page cannot be displayed" page inside the software.
I'll have to wait till the repeat on Wednesday now :-(
Requires XP, Media Player 10 and it installs some other dubius Windows service (kservice.exe) that's known to cause all sorts of problems.
After suffering the installation and restarts required I then had to sign up. Fair enough I suppose, but after a good half hour of tedium all I now get is the IE "Page cannot be displayed" page inside the software.
I'll have to wait till the repeat on Wednesday now :-(
LOL, I went through exactly the same 'nightmare' with this 4oD crap last week - got so fed up I uninstalled the lot - if the ca't get something as simple as this right, it's not worth bothering about - the website's as flakey as the software!
mcc said:
I installed it last night since I was desperate to watch the new Derren Brown show.
Requires XP, Media Player 10 and it installs some other dubius Windows service (kservice.exe) that's known to cause all sorts of problems.
Requires XP, Media Player 10 and it installs some other dubius Windows service (kservice.exe) that's known to cause all sorts of problems.
If it's WMP10 then it's DRM scheme is 'PlayForSure' which, assuming you have the keys to watch the program can be removed with a little work.
CommanderJameson said:
Type=Email
Category=vodfeedback
Name: CommanderJameson
Problem Summary:
Case:
Comments: You need to support non-XP platforms (I have a Mac). I don't care how you do it. I don't care about any discussions about DRM. That's what your clever people are paid large salaries to work out.
But telling me that I *have* to run Windows XP (i.e. pay another 300 quid) in order to access content that I've paid for (I'm a cable subscriber and licence-fee payer) is galling in the extreme.
Category=vodfeedback
Name: CommanderJameson
Problem Summary:
Case:
Comments: You need to support non-XP platforms (I have a Mac). I don't care how you do it. I don't care about any discussions about DRM. That's what your clever people are paid large salaries to work out.
But telling me that I *have* to run Windows XP (i.e. pay another 300 quid) in order to access content that I've paid for (I'm a cable subscriber and licence-fee payer) is galling in the extreme.
Channel 4 Spineless Tossers said:
Thank you for your email regarding 4oD.
Unfortunately we cannot say when the 4oD service will be available to users of other platforms, including Mac OS and Linux. The problem is, our content providers (e.g. the production companies who make our shows), insist on using a DRM licensing system.
The DRM (Digital Rights Management) system basically protects the video content from duplication and broadcast outside the UK & ROI. Currently they insist on using Microsoft's DRM, and because of this we can only support Microsoft operating systems.
Macintosh do have a solution, however the closed DRM system used by Apple is not currently available for licence by third parties and there is no other Mac-compatible DRM solution which meets the protection requirements of our content owners. Unfortunately, we are therefore unable to offer 4oD and other video content to Mac users at this stage.
We are sorry to disappoint on this occasion and assure you that if changes throughout the industry happen, as we would like, we will ensure the support of other operating systems.
Please note that Channel 4 is an independent broadcaster which does not receive revenue from the TV licence, these payments are made to the BBC. Channel 4 is broadcast free to view and all of our digital channels are available via a freeview box including additional +1 channels such as Film4 +1.
If you require further information, feel free to email me back or visit http://help.channel4.com/4oD/
Grow some bollox and tell your "content providers" that if they want to broadcast on C4 then they have to stop sucking the Microsoft cock.
ing bastards. Stupid, spineless, worthless ing bastards. And all this because I missed Phoenix Nights.
This DRM crap is the most intrusive, restrictive piece of 'malware' I have ever come across - the wife's downloaded music from MSN music site no longer works, as they capped the amount of times the licence can be used, and its always been on the exact same laptop!
I have heard that some companies have had enough of this DRM rubbish, and are no removing it, lets hope others have the balls to follow - as at the moment, it is much cheaper and less hassle to buy proper CDs and DVDs, than it is to download them, only to discover you are VERY restricted as to how you want to use the product you bought! At least with the physical vrsions, you can do what you want with them (legally, of course)
I have heard that some companies have had enough of this DRM rubbish, and are no removing it, lets hope others have the balls to follow - as at the moment, it is much cheaper and less hassle to buy proper CDs and DVDs, than it is to download them, only to discover you are VERY restricted as to how you want to use the product you bought! At least with the physical vrsions, you can do what you want with them (legally, of course)
CommanderJameson said:
Grow some bollox and tell your "content providers" that if they want to broadcast on C4 then they have to stop sucking the Microsoft cock.
How naive. Speak to Virgin media for details on how one's business model can be unexpectedly affected by telling content provders to get knotted.
CommanderJameson said:
Grow some bollox and tell your "content providers" that if they want to broadcast on C4 then they have to stop sucking the Microsoft cock.
ing bastards. Stupid, spineless, worthless ing bastards.
ing bastards. Stupid, spineless, worthless ing bastards. Or invest the time and money required to write your own scheme that is compatible with all the other OS's. Say some oddbod video codec that is only available in a specific 4oD player or something.
They used Microsoft because it's cheap. Now they're making excuses and passing the buck.
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