Secure Databases?
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Cuban

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5,161 posts

282 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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Having suffered at the hands of a virus on my host company's server that took out all their
Mambo databases, they are now suggesting that Mambo may be dumped due to security issues.

They are suggesting Wordpress may take its place as their available application, but what
would you guys suggest to be the most secure (as anything can be!) and user friendly
and to be honest, free database package?

Thanks in advance.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

256 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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Since Mambo and Wordpress both use MySql as a datatabase server i cant see how switching between them would help database security.

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

296 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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plasticpig said:
Since Mambo and Wordpress both use MySql as a datatabase server i cant see how switching between them would help database security.


It wont help database security in itself, but it may well stop any offender gaining access via a compromised script (ie mambo) and junking the database.


Ofcourse what you really should be asking is said:

Does anyone know of a host where, if someone else's slack / insecure website is exploited, my website will be fine and my data secure..


scratchchin and we all know the answer to that one beer

Check my profile if you get bored.

J

Cuban

Original Poster:

5,161 posts

282 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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JamieBeeston said:
plasticpig said:
Since Mambo and Wordpress both use MySql as a datatabase server i cant see how switching between them would help database security.


It wont help database security in itself, but it may well stop any offender gaining access via a compromised script (ie mambo) and junking the database.


Ofcourse what you really should be asking is said:

Does anyone know of a host where, if someone else's slack / insecure website is exploited, my website will be fine and my data secure..


scratchchin and we all know the answer to that one beer

Check my profile if you get bored.

J


Ha-ha - don;t you already get enough of my business?! hehe
Also gave you a free plug not 10 mins ago on another thread!

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

296 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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Cuban said:
Ha-ha - don;t you already get enough of my business?! hehe
Also gave you a free plug not 10 mins ago on another thread!


As the Bond title goes 'The World is not Enough!'

The more business I get (from recommendations as well!) the more staff / servers / network links / beer for PH'rs I can get

You're helping yourself by plugging Register1

Jdrink

Tonsko

6,299 posts

246 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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So, if we click the links in your profile, Jamie, and end up buying a hosting package with you, do we get a special pistonheads discount?

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

296 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Tonsko said:
So, if we click the links in your profile, Jamie, and end up buying a hosting package with you, do we get a special pistonheads discount?


sure, you get a beer or maybe even something bubblier at whatever PH event you catch me @

as a fair few happy clients can already attest drink

J

Tonsko

6,299 posts

246 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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JamieBeeston said:
Tonsko said:
So, if we click the links in your profile, Jamie, and end up buying a hosting package with you, do we get a special pistonheads discount?


sure, you get a beer or maybe even something bubblier at whatever PH event you catch me @

as a fair few happy clients can already attest drink

J


Ah, shame, I live in Leeds really

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

296 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Tonsko said:
JamieBeeston said:
Tonsko said:
So, if we click the links in your profile, Jamie, and end up buying a hosting package with you, do we get a special pistonheads discount?


sure, you get a beer or maybe even something bubblier at whatever PH event you catch me @

as a fair few happy clients can already attest drink

J


Ah, shame, I live in Leeds really


Doesnt stop you attending BTaP or PistonFest or any of the other many PH events

J

Cuban

Original Poster:

5,161 posts

282 months

Monday 21st May 2007
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bounce Bouncing this up again as the real subject kind of got overlooked.

I need to find an alternative to Mambo that has less security issues, any recommendations
for 'freeware' databases welcome. scratchchin

rich1231

17,340 posts

291 months

Monday 21st May 2007
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just to confirm.. Jamies vomit is indeed bubbly.. almost everyone can attest to that.

Cuban

Original Poster:

5,161 posts

282 months

Monday 21st May 2007
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rich1231 said:
just to confirm.. Jamies vomit is indeed bubbly.. almost everyone can attest to that.

Thanks but I do already use R1 for domains and am looking at the possibility of moving sites to
a server package with them, but it's the actual database software I'm keen to resolve.

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

296 months

Monday 21st May 2007
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Cuban,

Just to clarify,

Mambo isn't a a Database, it's a Content Management System (CMS)

The issue with your last host wont have been related to a security breach with the database software, more an insecure setup which allowed a breach in Mambo (or ANY insecure software) to effect sites / services OUTSIDE of the scope of that individual site..

This isn't an issue with the software per se, as much as with the whole infrastructure method used by any host that permits this.

On Register1, each site is 'jailed' so that it operates inside it's own mini environment, no one site has access to the files / databases of any other site, so if one site ever was hacked (we cant stop clients installing dodgy / unpatched / insecure software, that's their choice!) it would only effect THEIR own site, no-one elses.

Sounds like your last place didn't do this..

So long as you keep your Mambo install 'up-to-date' and apply the latest patches as they come out, AND keep regular backups (we backup every VDS every night!) then I cant see you having any issue keeping your current setup..

J

Cuban

Original Poster:

5,161 posts

282 months

Monday 21st May 2007
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Hi Jamie

Thanks - I'll email you later today about this and future business.

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

296 months

Monday 21st May 2007
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Cuban said:
Hi Jamie

Thanks - I'll email you later today about this and future business.


Always happy to help a PH'r

J

TheExcession

11,669 posts

281 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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rich1231 said:
just to confirm.. Jamies vomit is indeed bubbly.. almost everyone can attest to that.

Indeedy... and if you are shying from the hosting costs you could always challenge him to a game of spoof for it.

Oh yes

TheExcession

11,669 posts

281 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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JamieBeeston said:

On Register1, each site is 'jailed' so that it operates inside it's own mini environment, no one site has access to the files / databases of any other site

Just out of interest Jamie, (and not related to our hosting) but how do you deal with PHP Session information, is that shard in the same directory as other virtual hosts?

cheers
Ex

b.t.w. Me and Mick demolished 1/2 a bottle of the Middleton Very Rare the other night and raised a glass to your health :hic:

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

296 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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TheExcession said:
JamieBeeston said:

On Register1, each site is 'jailed' so that it operates inside it's own mini environment, no one site has access to the files / databases of any other site

Just out of interest Jamie, (and not related to our hosting) but how do you deal with PHP Session information, is that shard in the same directory as other virtual hosts?

cheers
Ex

b.t.w. Me and Mick demolished 1/2 a bottle of the Middleton Very Rare the other night and raised a glass to your health :hic:


With each account being tailed, each account has it's own filesystem structure (/etc / /var and crucially /tmp) so each sites session info goes into its own /tmp

my health is suffering atm, tonsilitis :| but I'm happy to hear you're working your way through it... I'm relishing the day I get to open mine

Spoof ehhe

philthy

4,697 posts

271 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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JamieBeeston said:
(we backup every VDS every night!)
J


....and very useful that you do boxedin

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

296 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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philthy said:
JamieBeeston said:
(we backup every VDS every night!)

J
....and very useful that you do boxedin
heheh smile



J