Torrents Vs.Limewire
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Furyous

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25,781 posts

252 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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Im confused over the torrent thing.I downloaded Azureus and tried to use, but didnt seem to get very far.I was/am quite impatient tho.
On the other hand, I still use limewire and find it simple to use in terms of searches and progress.

Which do you think is better, and why ? If its torrents, is there and idiots guide anywhere ?

And before anyone slams LW for spyware, touchwood, Ive so far kept clean.I do fing the latest albums on LW are now all messed about with now though.

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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The problem with ANY P2P system is that you're reliant on the others sending information. A nice fast BT swarm can have you pulling down a complete Ubuntu ISO at full throttle, where as if your using Limewire and the only sod with it is going at 10KB/s... you'll be going at 10KB/s max (assuming 1:1 uploading).

The other problem with BT is that is perfectly possible to download a dead torrent, zero seeders usually means you're not going to get anywhere with it. Zero peers altogether... nothing is going to happen at all.

rich 36

13,739 posts

297 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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I was using Azureus quite a bit up until just recently
and Ive Never had so many buggy' problems on this PC.

After I ditched it, and got shot of the handful of films
I'd downloaded,

machine has returned to normality.

Despite AVG/Search & Destroy/Adaware I routinely put up with Trojans et al'

Plus I hardly ever found anything truly worth waiting for,

I'd be interested to see how you find it, as I don't doubt
there was something amiss in my choice of source
for the downloads.


[i](The self righteous can smile inwardly at this point, and say
"serves him right not buying entertainment from HMV&quotwink[/i]

Furyous

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25,781 posts

252 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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ThePassenger said:
a complete Ubuntu ISO
confused

What I thought ThePassenger said:
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:looksuphopestoseepointoverhead:



hugoagogo

23,438 posts

264 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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downloaded loads of 24 and Sopranos amongst other stuff on Azureus, no problems

Stu R

21,701 posts

246 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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Furyous said:
ThePassenger said:
a complete Ubuntu ISO
confused

What I thought ThePassenger said:
bkjfbskjh jjjdfklanl lknf;lef;j qwkdm3iqdwa
:looksuphopestoseepointoverhead:
ISO = an image file, an exact copy of the CD stored in one file if you will.

Ubuntu = linux operating system, alternative to windows.

HTH

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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Furyous said:
ThePassenger said:
a complete Ubuntu ISO
confused

What I thought ThePassenger said:
bkjfbskjh jjjdfklanl lknf;lef;j qwkdm3iqdwa
:looksuphopestoseepointoverhead:
Ubuntu is a form of Linux.
An ISO file is a complete disk image that you can burn.

It's a) an example b) not dodgy wink

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

279 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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Azureus is IMO the best bittorrent client out there, if you are getting spyware and trojans it's because you are downloading dodgy stuff, not becuase of Azureus.

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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_dobbo_ said:
Azureus is IMO the best bittorrent client out there, if you are getting spyware and trojans it's because you are downloading dodgy stuff, not becuase of Azureus.
I've found it to be a memory hog in its default configuration, but that's easy to change and the Wiki has guides for setting it up properly. Being Java based it is very reliant on the VM underneath; but again Sun have improved quite dramatically.

I do like the plug-ins and ability to run as a console app though, exceptionally handy on a headless (i.e. no monitor) Linux box.

rich 36

13,739 posts

297 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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_dobbo_ said:
Azureus is IMO the best bittorrent client out there, if you are getting spyware and trojans it's because you are downloading dodgy stuff, not becuase of Azureus.
Like I say, I used it,
I got into trouble technically,

Now I'd like someone to explain how to avoid
it occuring again

Meaning I searched out a film, got a choice of source
even read a few comments to see if it looked worth it
got trojans

whats the answer?

Furyous

Original Poster:

25,781 posts

252 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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_dobbo_ said:
Azureus is IMO the best bittorrent client out there, if you are getting spyware and trojans it's because you are downloading dodgy stuff, not becuase of Azureus.
Only used for tunes, have heard its supposedly riddled with spyware, but as I say, it works for me.

Im only asking beacuse I suspect its become a bit mainstream and the rec. co.s are flooding it with shite.

Can anyone explain the difference in the 2 systems with regard to how they actually download ?
I know torrents works on a swarm type basis, but isnt that true of p2p as well ?

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

279 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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Azureus is open source so there is no way it's going to be riddled with spyware.

For downloading movies, if it's not either an avi (or other media format) or a bunch of rar files, it's not a film so don't download it, regardless of what the comments say! smile

LukeBird

17,170 posts

240 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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I use both, LW for music and Azureus for programs/films/games etc.
Although I haven't downloaded much at all for a while....

rich 36

13,739 posts

297 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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_dobbo_ said:
Azureus is open source so there is no way it's going to be riddled with spyware.

For downloading movies, if it's not either an avi (or other media format) or a bunch of rar files, it's not a film so don't download it, regardless of what the comments say! smile
Thanks I'll take another look

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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_dobbo_ said:
Azureus is open source so there is no way it's going to be riddled with spyware.

For downloading movies, if it's not either an avi (or other media format) or a bunch of rar files, it's not a film so don't download it, regardless of what the comments say! smile
Actually the .rar's are a film, hypothetically speaking, not that I have ANY knowledge of the illegal uses of things, but rar is a compression scheme, just like zip, ace, lzh and so on. You get WinRAR from rarlabs (30 day trial version) and tell it to uncompress either the <filename>-part001.rar or <filename>.rar or <filename>.r00 whatever is contained within will slowly reveal itself, like a beautiful butterfly emerging from its cacoon... assuming the butterfly is a clattering disk drive of course hehe

rich 36

13,739 posts

297 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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You've made that up havn't you

well havn't you

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Saturday 2nd June 2007
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rich 36 said:
You've made that up havn't you

well havn't you
No... well maybe a bit... it's not quite a butterfly... more a little bar that tells you how far it's got.

PJ S

10,842 posts

258 months

Saturday 2nd June 2007
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Furyous said:
Can anyone explain the difference in the 2 systems with regard to how they actually download ?
I know torrents works on a swarm type basis, but isnt that true of p2p as well ?
Strictly speaking they should be similar, but often the P2P users restrict the number of uploads they allow - so there's less of them sharing the data.
With torrents, less restrictions on number of connections, but some will throttle their upload speed so they can surf and send/receive emails, etc at the same time.
If you join a usenet group, you'll be pulling off a dedicated server and get full bandwidth downloads more often than not.

Tunku

7,703 posts

259 months

Saturday 2nd June 2007
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I prefer uTorrent to Azureus. Seems to be slimmer.

Tycho

12,296 posts

304 months

Saturday 2nd June 2007
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Tunku said:
I prefer uTorrent to Azureus. Seems to be slimmer.
I use utorrent as well, seems really small program and is really quick.