ink suppliers are modern day crack dealers......
ink suppliers are modern day crack dealers......
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Dupont666

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22,857 posts

221 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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They get you hooked with their cheap printers and then get you on the ink.

is there any way to get out of this ink habit and on to one which is cheaper or am I damned for a life of high prices just to get my fix of documents?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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You're stuffed, old boy...

Unless a pencil will do....smile

clonmult

10,529 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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I thought I was screwed after having bought a Lexmark - you could only buy carts from PC World due to some exclusive agreement.

Turns out that due to the age of the printer (its old now at 18 months), the exclusive deal has been scrapped and you can get third party carts for a fair saving (£16 per cart rather than £25+).

Oakey

27,981 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Depends what you're printing. If it's just text buy a laser priner.

If it's text and images and quality is important you'll want inkjet, so choose one that doesn't use a thousand different cartridges.

Epson are the biggest offenders for this, my current Epson has two (that's TWO) seperate BLACK cartridges and guess what? If one goes, it won't print which sort of makes having two of the fking things pointless. Worse still, when the colour goes, guess what? That's right, won't even print in B&W.

Tyre_Tread

10,678 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Google CISS (Continuos Ink Supply System)

I was going through loads of cartridges but now I have a reservoir with 30 ml of each colour ink and they are easily refillable.

The cost of the CISS was less than a set of cartridges for my printer.

It does void the warranty on the printer though and can be a bit fiddly to set up.

HTH

Tyre_Tread

10,678 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Oakey said:
Depends what you're printing. If it's just text buy a laser priner.

If it's text and images and quality is important you'll want inkjet, so choose one that doesn't use a thousand different cartridges.

Epson are the biggest offenders for this, my current Epson has two (that's TWO) seperate BLACK cartridges and guess what? If one goes, it won't print which sort of makes having two of the fking things pointless. Worse still, when the colour goes, guess what? That's right, won't even print in B&W.
Mine's an Epson - you definitely need a CISS

Edited by Tyre_Tread on Tuesday 30th June 11:58

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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My HP Deskjet not only refuses to print B&W when you run out of colour but also EXPIRES cartridges once they get older than a certain date - and won't print till you replace the cartridge, no matter how much is left in it!

Luckily my local computer shop sells cartridges for half the price of WH Smith et al.. shop around.

Tyre_Tread

10,678 posts

245 months

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Tyre_Tread said:
Google CISS (Continuos Ink Supply System)

I was going through loads of cartridges but now I have a reservoir with 30 ml of each colour ink and they are easily refillable.

The cost of the CISS was less than a set of cartridges for my printer.

It does void the warranty on the printer though and can be a bit fiddly to set up.

HTH
Wow, I just checked for my HP 8250 (5 + black)

A set of cartridges, each with 4.5ml of ink, is about £60

A CISS kit is £55, and that comes with 100ml of ink for EACH colour! And a pack of 250ml refills are £36 .. definitely a worthwhile investment


Stickers

1,387 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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john_p said:
Tyre_Tread said:
Google CISS (Continuos Ink Supply System)

I was going through loads of cartridges but now I have a reservoir with 30 ml of each colour ink and they are easily refillable.

The cost of the CISS was less than a set of cartridges for my printer.

It does void the warranty on the printer though and can be a bit fiddly to set up.

HTH
Wow, I just checked for my HP 8250 (5 + black)

A set of cartridges, each with 4.5ml of ink, is about £60

A CISS kit is £55, and that comes with 100ml of ink for EACH colour! And a pack of 250ml refills are £36 .. definitely a worthwhile investment
Now imagine how many printers would sell if they were supplied as CISS as standard!

smack

9,773 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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God bless workplaces with colour laser copiers/printers... Haven't personally owned a printer for almost 10 years now.

Tyre_Tread

10,678 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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john_p said:
Tyre_Tread said:
Google CISS (Continuos Ink Supply System)

I was going through loads of cartridges but now I have a reservoir with 30 ml of each colour ink and they are easily refillable.

The cost of the CISS was less than a set of cartridges for my printer.

It does void the warranty on the printer though and can be a bit fiddly to set up.

HTH
Wow, I just checked for my HP 8250 (5 + black)

A set of cartridges, each with 4.5ml of ink, is about £60

A CISS kit is £55, and that comes with 100ml of ink for EACH colour! And a pack of 250ml refills are £36 .. definitely a worthwhile investment
Just be prepared for a bit of messing about to get it up and running. Patience may be required. It is worth it though!

coolcatmaz

3,521 posts

231 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Boss sent me down town this morning to get a cartridge for our laser printer as he'd forgot to do it and also forgot his credit card wink - £73 yikes glad he's paying me back as I wouldn't fancy coughing up for that on a regular basis

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

270 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Dupont666 said:
They get you hooked with their cheap printers and then get you on the ink.
It is the same business model as Razors/blades and electric toothbrushes/heads.

Stickers

1,387 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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coolcatmaz said:
Boss sent me down town this morning to get a cartridge for our laser printer as he'd forgot to do it and also forgot his credit card wink - £73 yikes glad he's paying me back as I wouldn't fancy coughing up for that on a regular basis
I think you'll find it's not bought on a regular basis & that any inkjet equivelant would cost x10 the amount.

sinizter

3,348 posts

215 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Dupont666 said:
They get you hooked with their cheap printers and then get you on the ink.

is there any way to get out of this ink habit and on to one which is cheaper or am I damned for a life of high prices just to get my fix of documents?
Buy a laser printer. You would have more than paid for it by the time the free toner runs out.

crofty1984

17,064 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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I just used to change printer. £40 for ink or £30 for a printer/scanner/copier with free ink?

Stickers

1,387 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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crofty1984 said:
I just used to change printer. £40 for ink or £30 for a printer/scanner/copier with free ink?
New printers have a very limited supply of ink with machine - yet another scam!

Funk

27,642 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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An article said:
What’s one of the most expensive fluids on earth? Is it space shuttle fuel, at $0.03 per millilitre? How about 1985 Dom Pérignon champagne, at $0.18? Chanel Nº 5 perfume, at $1.11? No, one of the world’s most expensive fluids is printer ink, at $2.96 per millilitre. At one point, the price of printer ink was the same as that of gold.
Incredible, eh..?

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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sinizter said:
Dupont666 said:
They get you hooked with their cheap printers and then get you on the ink.

is there any way to get out of this ink habit and on to one which is cheaper or am I damned for a life of high prices just to get my fix of documents?
Buy a laser printer. You would have more than paid for it by the time the free toner runs out.
Yep - I bough myself a Samsung colour laser printer over a year ago for £120. Still on the free toner.
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