Web design, how much!!!
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mreagleeyes

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Monday 6th July 2009
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I'm a furniture designer that needs some feed back. Going to commit to some Business cards and trying to sort out a Web Site but the prices I'm being quoted are a joke, i'm not paying for your children's education.
Views on this please and any help on setting up a page for nothing would be very much appreciated.


mreagleeyes

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mreagleeyes

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V8mate

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Monday 6th July 2009
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mreagleeyes said:
Going to commit to some Business cards and trying to sort out a Web Site but the prices I'm being quoted are a joke, i'm not paying for your children's education.
Views on this please and any help on setting up a page for nothing would be very much appreciated.
How can we have a view when you haven't said how much you've been quoted and the website specification you gave the developer?

And websites which cost nothing tend to look like websites which cost nothing (unless you can produce a capable site yourself). Why should a web developer's skills be worth any less than yours?

What would you think if someone posted this:

"Hi. I'm after some new furniture. Sideboard for the lounge, that kind of thing. I asked a furniture maker for a quote and it's a joke; I'm not paying fo his kids' education. Anyone know where I can get bespoke furniture for nothing?"


ETA: The message on the reverse of your card is lousy.

Edited by V8mate on Monday 6th July 07:29

eps

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298 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Download netobjects fusion essentials, it's free to download and use. Enjoy. http://www.netobjects.com/html/product_updates.htm... Although I think that it's effectively version 7 of their software (they're on version 11 now). I've used version 9 and now 10. It's
quite good and you can use a few pre-defined templates to speed up development.

Alternatively, if you are offering bespoke furniture, hand made, then you need to match that with a website that is also hand made.

There are people on here who could help, for a price, but not at nothing. Although I think some are more than reasonable for the amount they charge.

How many pages, shopping cart, interaction such as Flash?

HTH


ETA: Agreed on the tagline, I think you need to de-personalise it.

Edited by eps on Monday 6th July 10:38

mreagleeyes

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V8mate said:
mreagleeyes said:
Going to commit to some Business cards and trying to sort out a Web Site but the prices I'm being quoted are a joke, i'm not paying for your children's education.
Views on this please and any help on setting up a page for nothing would be very much appreciated.
How can we have a view when you haven't said how much you've been quoted and the website specification you gave the developer?

And websites which cost nothing tend to look like websites which cost nothing (unless you can produce a capable site yourself). Why should a web developer's skills be worth any less than yours?

What would you think if someone posted this:

"Hi. I'm after some new furniture. Sideboard for the lounge, that kind of thing. I asked a furniture maker for a quote and it's a joke; I'm not paying fo his kids' education. Anyone know where I can get bespoke furniture for nothing?"


ETA: The message on the reverse of your card is lousy.

Edited by V8mate on Monday 6th July 07:29
Wrong side of the bed was it this morning. fking hell only asked if anyone had some advice and i get this.
I've been quoted £3000 upwards for a page with some pictures and links, if you think this is good then I'm in the wrong game. How long maximum to come up with a simple page that clients can go and look at my work, I'm not expecting it to be Number 1 on Google. So say a maximum of 3 days on it at 6 hours a day, £167 an hour. So like I said, i'm not paying for his holiday.

"ETA: The message on the reverse of your card is lousy". That's a brilliant come back to really make me feel good about it. No chance of a reason or is that just how you Knob Jockies roll in the computer world.

Many thanks

LordGrover

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241 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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mreagleeyes said:
you Knob Jockies
nono

mreagleeyes

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eps said:
Download netobjects fusion essentials, it's free to download and use. Enjoy. http://www.netobjects.com/html/product_updates.htm... Although I think that it's effectively version 7 of their software (they're on version 11 now). I've used version 9 and now 10. It's
quite good and you can use a few pre-defined templates to speed up development.

Alternatively, if you are offering bespoke furniture, hand made, then you need to match that with a website that is also hand made.

There are people on here who could help, for a price, but not at nothing. Although I think some are more than reasonable for the amount they charge.

How many pages, shopping cart, interaction such as Flash?

HTH


ETA: Agreed on the tagline, I think you need to de-personalise it.

Edited by eps on Monday 6th July 10:38
Many thanks, taken on board about the de-pesonalise it, will remove the back stuff. I'm looking to spend a maximum of about £1500. Not after a master piece, it only has to have a few pages and links to pictures and sample pages of wood. No need for a shopping cart as everything is customer based in relation to price. Going to give 'netobjects' a look at.

Cheers

mreagleeyes

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LordGrover said:
mreagleeyes said:
you Knob Jockies
nono
Is that a No No!. In that case apologies.

LordGrover

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If it can be perceived as a personal insult I think so. If it was too bad the mods would have jumped on it so you probably haven't crossed any lines but it's easy to say something in haste you may regret later. HTH

mreagleeyes

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LordGrover said:
If it can be perceived as a personal insult I think so. If it was too bad the mods would have jumped on it so you probably haven't crossed any lines but it's easy to say something in haste you may regret later. HTH
Roger that. My misses dose not find it funny when I call her that so fair one.

fastfreddy

8,577 posts

266 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Who designed your biz cards and logo? How much did they charge?

Dick Dastardly

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292 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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If you want something low cost but good looking then this is a graphic designer I deal with who builds CMS websites (ones that you can update content and add pages to) from about £500. The guy who runs it is Joe.

JimboM3

294 posts

239 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Give these guys an email:

http://www.webbedfeetuk.com

Full disclosure: It is run by a friend of mine but they are very good value normally.

Jim

4hero

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Monday 6th July 2009
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You should expect to pay in the region of £500 per day for a front end developer.

Plotloss

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4hero said:
You should expect to pay in the region of £500 per day for a front end developer.
For £60 something an hour they'd want to do the job with an unheard of level of accuracy in half the time everyone else was quoting.

Stickers

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Monday 6th July 2009
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Plotloss said:
4hero said:
You should expect to pay in the region of £500 per day for a front end developer.
For £60 something an hour they'd want to do the job with an unheard of level of accuracy in half the time everyone else was quoting.
Snot & nonsense, don't get ripped off by all that hype mate & take note that none of them are prepared to disclose their prices online.

Welcome to reality: www.websorceress.co.uk

Plotloss

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Monday 6th July 2009
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Stickers said:
Plotloss said:
4hero said:
You should expect to pay in the region of £500 per day for a front end developer.
For £60 something an hour they'd want to do the job with an unheard of level of accuracy in half the time everyone else was quoting.
Snot & nonsense, don't get ripped off by all that hype mate & take note that none of them are prepared to disclose their prices online.

Welcome to reality: www.websorceress.co.uk
15 years in IT tells me that £500 a day is a rate reserved for big hitters.

And opportunists.

Or those with a niche, big ticket skill set which doesnt really fit web front ends.

4hero

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Monday 6th July 2009
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Stickers said:
Plotloss said:
4hero said:
You should expect to pay in the region of £500 per day for a front end developer.
For £60 something an hour they'd want to do the job with an unheard of level of accuracy in half the time everyone else was quoting.
Snot & nonsense, don't get ripped off by all that hype mate & take note that none of them are prepared to disclose their prices online.

Welcome to reality: www.websorceress.co.uk
^ fine it you want a badly built site, and are not fussy about web standards. Have you actually looked at their portfolio? 1990 calls.

I'll disclose my price online, £500 per day (and have more work than I know what to do with).

edited to say, not an opportunist - just create high end, accessible, standards compliant sites for medium to large corporations.

Edited by 4hero on Monday 6th July 13:08

LordGrover

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Monday 6th July 2009
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I don't doubt 4hero is worth the money - the problem is there are many chancers out there charging similar rates for sub-standard work. £500 per day appears to be the perceived going rate for anything IT related. My problem is I don't really think of websites as IT - it's more marketing. Clearly there are some sites that actually do something but most of them are glorified catalogues. I'm fairly sure that's all the OP wants so maybe something like the one suggested would suit him and many others like him.