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jeff m

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Saturday 17th January 2004
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I was using "find" to see if I had MS word.
As I have my OS on my hard drive, I also did a find for "word" in that folder only and got a result of zero. Real strange, I was expecting about 30 hits.
Win 98, yea I know it's old!
Jeff

simpo two

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282 months

Saturday 17th January 2004
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Can you tell us how you came by this machine?

jeff m

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Saturday 17th January 2004
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I know what you're thinking.
But you're wrong.
It was bought from a store, the reason the OS is on the HD is that HDs are large and it saves putting in the CD if ever you need it. It's quite convenient and would have thought not unusual.
Prob no diff to putting in the CD and putting "word" in find. Prob some sort of protection, thought some clever bugger would know. Didn't really give it a thought when I posted that OS was on C.
Jeff

simpo two

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Saturday 17th January 2004
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jeff m said:
the reason the OS is on the HD is that HDs are large and it saves putting in the CD if ever you need it.'


I'm not an expert but IMHO OSs are always on the HD? You can't run an OS from a CD; it's not fast enough.

The reason behind my Q was then to ask: What did it say on the box when you bought it? What software did it claim to come with, other than Win98? Anything?

_DJ_

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271 months

Saturday 17th January 2004
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Word is not always shipped with a new machine, and when it is, is always on different media from the OS.If you have copied the OS install files to the HDD, you'll not find msword.exe in that folder as it's not shipped on the OS install CD.


simpo two

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Saturday 17th January 2004
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Good point, let's keep 'Operating System' separate from 'Applications' here!

Bodo

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Sunday 18th January 2004
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simpo two said:
I'm not an expert but IMHO OSs are always on the HD? You can't run an OS from a CD; it's not fast enough.
There's no problem running operating systems from CD. It gets loaded into RAM on bootup anyway; so only booting may take a little bit longer from CD.

jeff m

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Sunday 18th January 2004
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Sorry guys my post was not clear.
I have my OS FOLDER on my C drive. In other words if I want to get something that is not loaded into windows I can get it from that folder I don't have to put the CD into D.
My actual ques was that "find" did not seem to look in it.

simpo two

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Sunday 18th January 2004
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jeff m said:
My actual ques was that "find" did not seem to look in it.

It's perfectly possible you have Windows but not Word. But that goes back to my original question - if you bought it from new, what exactly did it say on the box? Did you get any CDs with 'Word' or Office' written on them?

_DJ_

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Sunday 18th January 2004
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To (attempt) to answer the original question.
There is nothing in the OS which will prevent you from finding a file called 'winword.exe' if that file exists in a particular folder. If you have the source files for Office/Word in a folder, you will not find winword.exe in that folder; The install files should contain a .cab file in which you'll find winword.exe.
Perhaps it would be easier to approach this from a different angle. Why were you searching for Word in the 1st place, to reinstall it?

DJ

>> Edited by _DJ_ on Sunday 18th January 11:57

_DJ_

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Sunday 18th January 2004
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Bodo said:


simpo two said:
I'm not an expert but IMHO OSs are always on the HD? You can't run an OS from a CD; it's not fast enough.


There's no problem running operating systems from CD. It gets loaded into RAM on bootup anyway; so only booting may take a little bit longer from CD.



Not true. In a Windows OS you will have some of the OS in memory, but when using DLL's the machine will load/unload them from memory when used. Windows also assumes that some folders in %systemroot% are Read/Write and will break if you use read only media

>> Edited by _DJ_ on Sunday 18th January 11:59

jeff m

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Sunday 18th January 2004
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_DJ_ said:
To (attempt)

Perhaps it would be easier to approach this from a different angle. Why were you searching for Word in the 1st place, to reinstall it?

DJ

>> Edited by _DJ_ on Sunday 18th January 11:57


I knew I didn't have it as a working prog, thought it possible it may be on the CD and uninstalled. I happen to have my win 98 folder on my HD, which threw everybody into a loop. If I found it I would of course installed it. What puzzled me was that a "find" for "word" in the win 98 folder (equiv of CD almost) would result in zero hits considering things like wordpad exist in that folder.
It's really not a problem, I just got a result I didn't expect.