Win 7 - 64 or 32?

[Tiggsy]

Upgrading my vista lappy (which keeps blue screening) to Win 7 - i seem to recal a reason why i didnt use vista 64 in the past....should i go win 7 32 or 64 now?

Laptop is pretty good (1200 18 months ago)

[Xenocide]

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[bodhi]

64-bit all the way.


(Vista preferably. 7 Smells of wee )

[Tiggsy]

vista better than 7???

[Arese]

bodhi said:

64-bit all the way.


(Vista preferably. 7 Smells of wee )

[Sajax]

What make & model is your laptop?

Whether the drivers are available or not will dictate whether you can use 64 bit.

Edited by Sajax on Tuesday 16th February 15:32

[bodhi]

Arese said:

bodhi said:

64-bit all the way.


(Vista preferably. 7 Smells of wee )

7 is just Vista SP3 with a new interface. Main problem is, the new interface sucks massive amounts of cock. Whoever decided to get rid of Quick Launch wants shot, the new system tray is next to useless, Explorer is several steps back from Vista (I don't want links, I want a proper directory tree thank you), application compatibility seemed dubious when I tried it, and the new taskbar is hideously unintuitive - as you can never bloody find where your programs are.

It almost seems like its another attempt to lock you out of how the Pc itself works, as if MS have decided I'm too stupid to use it properly. this deeply irritates me. If I wanted locked down for my own safety, I'd buy a Mac.

[Arese]

bodhi said:

Arese said:

bodhi said:

64-bit all the way.


(Vista preferably. 7 Smells of wee )

7 is just Vista SP3 with a new interface. Main problem is, the new interface sucks massive amounts of cock. Whoever decided to get rid of Quick Launch wants shot, the new system tray is next to useless, Explorer is several steps back from Vista (I don't want links, I want a proper directory tree thank you), application compatibility seemed dubious when I tried it, and the new taskbar is hideously unintuitive - as you can never bloody find where your programs are.

It almost seems like its another attempt to lock you out of how the Pc itself works, as if MS have decided I'm too stupid to use it properly. this deeply irritates me. If I wanted locked down for my own safety, I'd buy a Mac.

I have Windows 7, and I have Quick Launch. My laptop came with Vista, it was very slow and crashed often even when it was new and not 'bloated'. When I installed Windows 7, it was much quicker with exactly the same hardware. I agree with what you say with regards to Explorer, but directory navigation has been dumbing down since the days of Windows 3.x File Manager.

I kind of agree with programs sometimes being a pain to find, but there are settings to make the interface a bit more XP-like.

For me, it's more stable and quicker than Vista, and I've had no compatability issues.

Some pretty simple comparisons here

[Tiggsy]

Sajax said:

What make & model is your laptop?

Whether the drivers are available or not will dictate whether you can use 64 bit.

Edited by Sajax on Tuesday 16th February 15:32

A sony Vaio pcg 8111m

[bodhi]

Arese said:

bodhi said:

Arese said:

bodhi said:

64-bit all the way.


(Vista preferably. 7 Smells of wee )

7 is just Vista SP3 with a new interface. Main problem is, the new interface sucks massive amounts of cock. Whoever decided to get rid of Quick Launch wants shot, the new system tray is next to useless, Explorer is several steps back from Vista (I don't want links, I want a proper directory tree thank you), application compatibility seemed dubious when I tried it, and the new taskbar is hideously unintuitive - as you can never bloody find where your programs are.

It almost seems like its another attempt to lock you out of how the Pc itself works, as if MS have decided I'm too stupid to use it properly. this deeply irritates me. If I wanted locked down for my own safety, I'd buy a Mac.

I have Windows 7, and I have Quick Launch. My laptop came with Vista, it was very slow and crashed often even when it was new and not 'bloated'. When I installed Windows 7, it was much quicker with exactly the same hardware. I agree with what you say with regards to Explorer, but directory navigation has been dumbing down since the days of Windows 3.x File Manager.

I kind of agree with programs sometimes being a pain to find, but there are settings to make the interface a bit more XP-like.

For me, it's more stable and quicker than Vista, and I've had no compatability issues.

Some pretty simple comparisons here

It's horses for courses at the end of the day, however to say I was unimpressed with 7 was an understatement. However this may well be due to the fact I've never had an issue with Vista (apart from UAC, which lasted all of 6 minutes before getting killed) - it's been stable and quick since it was isntalled on this laptop 18 months ago.

[JohnnyPanic]

bodhi said:

Whoever decided to get rid of Quick Launch wants shot

I thought so too at first, but pinning your most used programs to the taskbar does day-to-day work better for me. Then again, for some years now I've used a separate StarDock at the top of my screen as I need regular 'quick' access to too many apps to fit into the quick launch.

bodhi said:

the new system tray is next to useless

I've found it to be more useable and less intrusive, once you figure out that you can have some icons out all the time, some always hidden, and others only showing up when there's an alert. It's certainly been more reliable than the sliding show/hide thingy of old.

bodhi said:

Explorer is several steps back from Vista (I don't want links, I want a proper directory tree thank you)

This *really* bugged me when it came out. Recently I discovered that they've added an "Automatically expand to current folder" checkbox into the folder options. Don't know what took them so long, but must have had a lot of complaints as it was a stupid thing to take out.

bodhi said:

the new taskbar is hideously unintuitive - as you can never bloody find where your programs are.

Are they not normally in the same order if pinned there? I must admit I've expanded mine as I didn't like the icon only thing.

bodhi said:

It almost seems like its another attempt to lock you out of how the Pc itself works, as if MS have decided I'm too stupid to use it properly.

AFAIK it's not any further along that line than Vista is it? The advanced stuff is in there, but probably hidden away a bit better so that 'ordinary' users are less likely to fk it up!


Overall, I quite like it, and whilst I don't find it faster than Vista I find it much less likely to slow down due to running out of resources.


Now, as for the OP ... I'd just check that the drivers are available for any peripherals you use, and that any specialist / unusual software you have will run ok in 64.

Reading between the lines, I *think* Xenocide above *might* just be recommending 64. He's a bit unclear though...

[Tiggsy]

If there are issues with speacalsit software not running am I right that there's an xp option within win 7?

[arcturus]

Yes there is but only in Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate, NOT Home Premium or any 'lesser' edition.

[sa_20v]

I bought Windows 7 Ultimate and it came with both the 32 and 64-bit versions:

http://www.checkoutspy.co.uk/find/windows+7+ultima...

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I upgraded to 64 bit and haven't had any problems.

Not really noticed any difference between 32 and 64 to be honest, but it's nice knowing I can use all my RAM.

[BliarOut]

arcturus said:

Yes there is but only in Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate, NOT Home Premium or any 'lesser' edition.

They've slimmed the number of versions down again (thankfully) with 7.


Personally I hate Vista with a passion, couldn't see the back of it soon enough.

[LeoSayer]

I recently bought a quad-core all singing and dancing Win7 64 bit desktop for editing videos....and my USB video capture device doesn't have 64bit drivers so I can't use it.

I am underwhelmed by 64bit so far, shouldn't things be so much faster?

[RobDickinson]

Retail comes with both 32 and 64, the OEM one comes 1 or the other.

Download the w7 checker see if it can find certified drivers for your machines hardware, in W7 all certified drivers have to have 64bit versions.

[Ordinary_Chap]

LeoSayer said:

I recently bought a quad-core all singing and dancing Win7 64 bit desktop for editing videos....and my USB video capture device doesn't have 64bit drivers so I can't use it.

I am underwhelmed by 64bit so far, shouldn't things be so much faster?

Generally not between 32 and 64 although the quad core should be like grease lightening as long as the application has been optimised to use all 4 cores.

[The_Jackal]

not necessarily, it depends who you choose to believe on forums.
The main benefit is programs that are written to use 64bit processing (Adobe After Effects CS5 is the only one I know of at the moment)and also the 4gb+ ram issue. But when ram these days is so fast, the bottleneck is normally somewhere else. Unless you are using SSDs, the hard drive will always be the thing that is dragging the speed of your PC down.
Its a bit like Dual and quad core processors, there are still not many applications that make full use of all cores.