Apple screws W7?
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FourWheelDrift said:
Have you plugged your iPhone into the PC using the supplied USB cable to double check?
Check his post at 16:17. Looks like he already has.The iPhone USB driver is a fancy non-standard bit of code (usbmuxd on unix and OS X, probably similarly named service under Windows) but Windows 7 shouldn't allow a driver that sits on top of the USB stack to compromise the system.
I don't see how Apple code could compromise Windows 7's stability any more than a Microsoft app could compromise OS X's stability... unless Apple's iPhone driver is directly in the kernel (ring 0? can't remember how Windows works) which is 'bad Apple' really.
If it works fine with a USB cable (as it appears to), then faulty hardware (e.g. loose connections / shorts in the third-party dock stand) most certainly *could* crash Windows, since there's only so much a device driver can do if the hardware is glitching.
Without sounding like an Apple fanboy, I don't think Apple are anything to do with this (other than the fact you're using an Apple iPhone and thus want an Apple-compatible peripheral) - certainly not their code. User-mode code like iTunes sure as hell won't crash Windows 7, Microsoft aren't *that* bad FFS, it's not Windows 3.1 any more. Windows 7 is a stable, well written OS and even if iTunes were to bomb, it shouldn't lock up the OS. As far as I know, the Windows version of iTunes is still just a user-mode app and there's no SYSTEM-level access or kernel hooks going on, so won't be responsible for full-on freezes / crashes.
Duff USB peripherals *do* cause OS chaos, both on Windows and Linux and OS X. My supposedly 'expertly tailored' OS X ice kitty install on my monster Mac Pro gets unstable every so often, requiring a hard restart, because the USB client in my APC SmartUPS battery backup box sometimes goes haywire and sends rubbish down the USB cable. OS X does a good job of isolating the particular channel and the console logs tell me that a particular device on a particular bus is playing funny buggers, but it's only so long before the kernel gets bored of this and barfs...
Apple write pretty good quality code. I'd suspect cheap peripheral hardware first, if you're running a standard software install that thousands to millions of other people are using successfully. My cheap Maplin 'super dock' USB adapter that accepts 5 different memory card formats and also lets you plug in SATA drives of both 3.5" and 2.5" size (it's *really* handy for imaging discs) also pisses off OS X too on occasion. If I could find a super-high-quality expensive aluminium version of exactly that device, I'd pay for it - the flexibility to allow connection of virtually any mass storage device (hard drive, CF card, SD card, Memory Stick, USB flashdrive, whatever) is invaluable. Shame that the equipment itself is so cheap and flaky.... (I know it's off topic, but does anyone know of a 'reassuringly expensive' version of what I'm talking about? The brittle plastic has already broken on mine from putting 3.5" SATA drives in for imaging... it's a bit ramshackle - made by Unitek, called a 'SATA HDD Docking Station' and is red and black brittle plastic)...
I think cyberface has it about right. While the packaging infers it's a pukka accessory the piece does not feel good quality and the cable socket is a little 'baggy'. Ho-hum. They've said they'll replace it.
Slight digression, but still knocking apple,
iTunes... who the hell decided horizontal scrolling is a good idea? I suppose the mac-freaks with their rolly-nipple-affairs can scroll to the side with a flick but it's torture on my wrist.
Slight digression, but still knocking apple,

iTunes... who the hell decided horizontal scrolling is a good idea? I suppose the mac-freaks with their rolly-nipple-affairs can scroll to the side with a flick but it's torture on my wrist.
cyberface said:
If I could find a super-high-quality expensive aluminium version of exactly that device, I'd pay for it - the flexibility to allow connection of virtually any mass storage device (hard drive, CF card, SD card, Memory Stick, USB flashdrive, whatever) is invaluable. Shame that the equipment itself is so cheap and flaky.... (I know it's off topic, but does anyone know of a 'reassuringly expensive' version of what I'm talking about? The brittle plastic has already broken on mine from putting 3.5" SATA drives in for imaging... it's a bit ramshackle - made by Unitek, called a 'SATA HDD Docking Station' and is red and black brittle plastic)...
Does the item mentioned allow direct connection of the cards, or are they in a/their USB adapter?If the former, then not sure what else exists on that front, but if the latter, then how does this look?
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Hard-Drive-Cases/sc8...
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Hard-Drive-Cases/sc8...
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Hard-Drive-Cases/sc8...
http://usb.brando.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0051... - noticed the above reseller carries the non-card reader version, so they may be able to order it for you.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=38831...
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=34041...
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=22665...
http://www.saverstore.com/product/20030245/Sumvisi...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Max-Value-Docking-Station-...
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?num=50&am...
http://www.sharkoon.com/html/produkte/docking_stat...
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