Email Rejection
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nervous

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24,050 posts

254 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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The core of my business is with schools, and we've suddenly started getting a lot of mail rejections from teachers- even teachers who I've been mailing up until last week.

The system that they nearly all use is esinet, and all the rejections are from is of the name@orange.esinet.org.uk format

When I get a bounce back, I get this every-time (from any school using the system):

The original message was received at Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:47:05 GMT
from host81-141-243-163.wlms-broadband.com [81.141.243.163]

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<****@orange.esinet.org.uk>
(reason: 554-in3.mx.ifl.net)

----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to in.mx.ifl.net.:
<<< 554-in3.mx.ifl.net
<<< 554 Your access to this mail system has been rejected due to the sending MTA's poor reputation. If you believe that this failure is in error, please contact the intended recipient via alternate means.
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable

What does this mean and what can I do about it? I've changed nothing whatsoever, so I'm at a loss to understand why my MTA suddenly has a poor reputation (whatever an MTA is).

I'd appreciate any help you can provide folks, I need to fix this and fast.

Thanks in advance,
N.

Man-At-Arms

5,920 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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nervous said:
What does this mean and what can I do about it? I've changed nothing whatsoever, so I'm at a loss to understand why my MTA suddenly has a poor reputation (whatever an MTA is).
MTA : Message Transfer Agent
sort of like a relay server, sounds as though one of them in the chain is blacklisted and will not pass on emails

speak to your ISP about using another MTA, or unblacklisting it

nervous

Original Poster:

24,050 posts

254 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Man-At-Arms said:
nervous said:
What does this mean and what can I do about it? I've changed nothing whatsoever, so I'm at a loss to understand why my MTA suddenly has a poor reputation (whatever an MTA is).
MTA : Message Transfer Agent
sort of like a relay server, sounds as though one of them in the chain is blacklisted and will not pass on emails

speak to your ISP about using another MTA, or unblacklisting it
All my computer stuff is done through Register 1- is that who I need to talk to? Or do you mean the people that physically charge me for the internet (vodafone)? Sorry, I'm no good with this sort of thing. God, I'm hoping I don't have to deal with Vodafone. Please don't let it be Vodafone.

Also, any idea why I'd suddenly be blocked?

onomatopoeia

3,523 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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How do you send email? By which I mean, what is the SMTP server configured to in your MUA (that's "Mail User Agent", e.g. Outlook or Thunderbird or PINE).

Glocko

1,813 posts

273 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Why did I read that as Female Ejaculation?
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Man-At-Arms

5,920 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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nervous said:
All my computer stuff is done through Register 1
give Jamie a shout
i'm sure they'll either fix it pretty quick, or will tell you sorry, but you gotta talk to yodafone

nervous

Original Poster:

24,050 posts

254 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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onomatopoeia said:
How do you send email? By which I mean, what is the SMTP server configured to in your MUA (that's "Mail User Agent", e.g. Outlook or Thunderbird or PINE).
it's a POP3 and it's mail.mycompanyname.com

is that the right info? do you want more? again, most of these folks we've been dealing with for years with no issues.

nervous

Original Poster:

24,050 posts

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Thursday 11th March 2010
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Man-At-Arms said:
nervous said:
All my computer stuff is done through Register 1
give Jamie a shout
i'm sure they'll either fix it pretty quick, or will tell you sorry, but you gotta talk to yodafone
God, please not Vodafone. Please.

Strangely Brown

14,156 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Sounds to me like the schools subscribe to a blacklist and your ISP has been blacklisted. It is quite possible that another customer at your ISP has been spamming and therefore mail from your ISP is seen as unwanted.

You need to speak to your ISP and get them to talk to the blacklist maintainer.

onomatopoeia

3,523 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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nervous said:
onomatopoeia said:
How do you send email? By which I mean, what is the SMTP server configured to in your MUA (that's "Mail User Agent", e.g. Outlook or Thunderbird or PINE).
it's a POP3 and it's mail.mycompanyname.com

is that the right info? do you want more? again, most of these folks we've been dealing with for years with no issues.
POP3 is the recieving mechanism. SMTP is for sending. As others have said - talk to register1.

The problem is that the company providing the email service to your clients has taken a dislike to the server you are sending ("relaying" is the term normally used) through. This might be the one operated by Vodafone or it might be Register1 (Register1 seem to offer a mail relay service on all their hosting products). In either case register1 should be able to help - if their server has the problem they can try to do something about it, if you're sending through vodafone and it's vodafone with the problem then r1 can tell you how to send through them instead.

Edited by onomatopoeia on Thursday 11th March 11:34

nervous

Original Poster:

24,050 posts

254 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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onomatopoeia said:
nervous said:
onomatopoeia said:
How do you send email? By which I mean, what is the SMTP server configured to in your MUA (that's "Mail User Agent", e.g. Outlook or Thunderbird or PINE).
it's a POP3 and it's mail.mycompanyname.com

is that the right info? do you want more? again, most of these folks we've been dealing with for years with no issues.
POP3 is the recieving mechanism. SMTP is for sending. As others have said - talk to register1.

The problem is that the company providing the email service to your clients has taken a dislike to the server you are sending ("relaying" is the term normally used) through. This might be the open operated by Vodafone or it might be Register1 (Register1 seem to offer a mail relay service on all their hosting products). In either case register1 should be able to help - if their server has the problem they can try to do something about it, if you're sending through vodafone and it's vodafone with the problem then r1 can tell you how to send through them instead.
Ok, thanks, I greatly appreciate it.