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rhinochopig

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17,932 posts

225 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Can someone please tell me how to save a version of someone's website. It's about to turn nasty and I need proof of car description for possible court case.

Thanks

WorAl

10,877 posts

215 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Screen shots?

Landlord

12,689 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Right-click and Save As?

Edit: Also, isn't there a site that saves everything of the internet daily? Or is this only "by volume"?

Edited by Landlord on Wednesday 17th March 16:46

Puggit

49,649 posts

275 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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On firefox go to edit - page source

On IE - view, source

Save either as a text file

GTIR

24,741 posts

293 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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You can ctrl, print screen (or something) then paste into Paint

Mr E

22,979 posts

286 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Google may well cache it.

GTIR

24,741 posts

293 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Get the webpage up then disconnect the monitor. It's now captured in the monitor forever.
Simple.

soad

34,502 posts

203 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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GTIR

24,741 posts

293 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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dibbers006 said:
GTIR said:
Get the webpage up then disconnect the monitor. It's now captured in the monitor forever.
Simple.
rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNwLZBqcajU
rofl
I'd thought I'd seen that. Superb!


Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

278 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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take a photgraph of your monitor

Dick Dastardly

8,326 posts

290 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Landlord said:
isn't there a site that saves everything of the internet daily? Or is this only "by volume"?
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php but it's usually the more popular sites.


Edited by Dick Dastardly on Wednesday 17th March 18:08

paddyhasneeds

66,414 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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I don't really see how you're going to be able to save/capture anything that is beyond dispute i.e. their defence would be "Prove you didn't mock that up".

TonyToniTone

3,893 posts

276 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Request the logs?

paddyhasneeds

66,414 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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I doubt it will be in the logs.

Assuming it's like most car websites, and from the the OP has said it's a question of description/mis-advertised I'd have thought the only concrete way to say "This is the original ad" is going to be in the backup(s) of the database(s) behind the website the ad was on.

V8mate

45,899 posts

216 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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FFS. So many over-complex solutions. Just take a screen shot!

'Print Screen' then CTRL-V into Paint or PSP or suchlike.

paddyhasneeds

66,414 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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V8mate said:
FFS. So many over-complex solutions. Just take a screen shot!

'Print Screen' then CTRL-V into Paint or PSP or suchlike.
I'm not a lawyer so really don't know the answer to this - are screen shots of text admissible in court and classed as "proof"?

I ask as I have a screenshot I was sent from Saddam Hussein's nephews offering me a share of his billions if I'd just help them get it out of Iraq, you get my point...

V8mate

45,899 posts

216 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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paddyhasneeds said:
V8mate said:
FFS. So many over-complex solutions. Just take a screen shot!

'Print Screen' then CTRL-V into Paint or PSP or suchlike.
I'm not a lawyer so really don't know the answer to this - are screen shots of text admissible in court and classed as "proof"?

I ask as I have a screenshot I was sent from Saddam Hussein's nephews offering me a share of his billions if I'd just help them get it out of Iraq, you get my point...
Yes, and it's well made, but maybe if you 'crowd your screen with other crap too, and the browser window at the front but reduced size, you'd have to be a pretty amazing fraudster to have created such a complete image.

ETA: And often it's enough to bin legal proceedings simply by having 'something'.

Edited by V8mate on Wednesday 17th March 19:05

miniman

29,787 posts

289 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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rhinochopig

Original Poster:

17,932 posts

225 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Thanks folks.

marshalla

15,902 posts

228 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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paddyhasneeds said:
I don't really see how you're going to be able to save/capture anything that is beyond dispute i.e. their defence would be "Prove you didn't mock that up".
I have to do this fairly often - in such a way that I can present it in court if necessary. Follow the ACPO Good Practice Guide for Computer Based Electronic Evidence - at least the bit about contemporaneous notes.

Use something like "wget" to grab EVERYTHING off the site - don't muck about with browsers or page by page saving. Once you've grabbed it, burn multiple copies to CD.

If dates are critical seal at least one of the CDs in an envelope which you post to yourself with the address on the flap side (so it gets postmarked there) to get an independent 3rd party confirmation of date.

ETA - if it's really critical, get your solicitor to contact me and I'll do it properly with a S9 statement if required.

Edited by marshalla on Wednesday 17th March 21:31