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The company that I work for currently has a number of domains that are up for renewal. I have just had the invoice put in front of me and the cost is £49.95 for each domain for 12 months. Is this the going rate or in theory can we renew these elsewhere at a better price. As you can tell I know bugger all about the subject 
so would be grateful for any advice!!
Cheers
Stone
so would be grateful for any advice!! Cheers
Stone
For 1 year that is extortionate, you can renew them a lot cheaper than that many places elsewhere. www.mydomain.com for a start.
>> Edited by Bee_Jay on Friday 26th March 11:16
>> Edited by Bee_Jay on Friday 26th March 11:16
That's expensive. Also beware of scammers who write to you requesting renewal with them even though you didn't buy it through them.
You should be able to renew for much less.
www.Easily.co.uk may have an FAQ about this.
You should be able to renew for much less.
www.Easily.co.uk may have an FAQ about this.
Depends on the domain, but not going rate for any 'normal' domains, bargin basement .co.uk's are about £6 per 2 years and .com/.net/.org about £8/year. Usually a few quid more.
Yes you can move them but be wary of any clause which says they will charge to release the domains.
Also check that the invoice is from the right company. There are a few con men out there who send out pro forma invoices looking official to renew but they actually move them to another companie
Yes you can move them but be wary of any clause which says they will charge to release the domains.
Also check that the invoice is from the right company. There are a few con men out there who send out pro forma invoices looking official to renew but they actually move them to another companie
The cost is largely based on the TLD (extension) the domain has. Generally gTLDs (com,net,org) will be cheaper because they have no pre-requisits, can be fullfilled automatically, although some ccTLD's (co.uk etc) can also fall into this category.
Some TLD's create a huge amount of work to register .ar being one of the worst, and therefore more costly.
The other factor is the sort of company handling your registrations. If they handle all the admin of the domains, automatically let you know what ones are up for renewal, handle DNS and WHOis modifications etc then you are getting charged for a "corporate" style service.
If you handle this stuff yourself, then, without knowing the TLDs involved, I would say you paying excessivly - check www.godaddy.com for the sort of rates availble to those wishing to do their own work.
HTH
Paul
Some TLD's create a huge amount of work to register .ar being one of the worst, and therefore more costly.
The other factor is the sort of company handling your registrations. If they handle all the admin of the domains, automatically let you know what ones are up for renewal, handle DNS and WHOis modifications etc then you are getting charged for a "corporate" style service.
If you handle this stuff yourself, then, without knowing the TLDs involved, I would say you paying excessivly - check www.godaddy.com for the sort of rates availble to those wishing to do their own work.
HTH
Paul
.co.uk's are cheaper but what exactly are Welsh domains? if they are specific then they will be more expensive like the .tv, .biz and the .museum type domains around now.
I could have sworn I saw Welsh on the first post. I think I need more tea
>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Friday 26th March 11:45
I could have sworn I saw Welsh on the first post. I think I need more tea
>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Friday 26th March 11:45
Wow!! 
Thanks for the advice and recommendations.
Having looked at some of the sites I've come to the conclusion that the domains in question are just not worth renewing. They were purchased 12 months ago by the MD after he was contacted
and told that another company had tried to register them and they were giving us first refusal!! 
Yeah right!! Anyway after having a quick look at some of the sites mentioned I can see an infinate number of variations on the company name- buying them isn't going to prevent someone purchasing something similar. Lets hope the MD doesn't see or he'll end up buying the lot!
Thanks for the advice and recommendations. Having looked at some of the sites I've come to the conclusion that the domains in question are just not worth renewing. They were purchased 12 months ago by the MD after he was contacted
and told that another company had tried to register them and they were giving us first refusal!! Yeah right!! Anyway after having a quick look at some of the sites mentioned I can see an infinate number of variations on the company name- buying them isn't going to prevent someone purchasing something similar. Lets hope the MD doesn't see or he'll end up buying the lot! I run a Domain Specific Company as part of my Group,
www.Register1.net
Feel free to drop me a mail if you need to be walked thru the whole process.
www.Register1.net
Feel free to drop me a mail if you need to be walked thru the whole process.
stone said:
Wow!!
Having looked at some of the sites I've come to the conclusion that the domains in question are just not worth renewing. They were purchased 12 months ago by the MD after he was contacted
A similar company wrote to us - I said no thank you (polite me eh?) but they persisted, telling me I HAD TO "copyright" our comany name - until I eventually had to tell them to "eff off".
tvrgit said:
A similar company wrote to us - I said no thank you (polite me eh?) but they persisted, telling me I HAD TO "copyright" our comany name - until I eventually had to tell them to "eff off".
Alas there are so many shysters out there now, they have come to the, unfortunately correct, conclusion, that they can make far more Conning people, than they can by being a legitimate company.
The Domain Registry of America / Canada was a prime example, they would FAX thru a 'Renewal' notice, letting you know that your domain was due to expire VERY SOON, even tho it was months off, and that if you DIDN'T RENEW, YOU COMPETITORS WOULD ROB YOUR DOMAIN, but they would HAPPILY renew it for you, for $50, then in the small print, they make mention that they actually DON'T have your domain, but by returning this form, you authorise them to transfer the domain to themselves.
;(
The misspellt domains this is different tho, if you have a high profile domain name, and there are a few OBVIOUS misspellings, then its far easier just to spend a few quid on registering them, with domains from as little as £3.95 a yr, is it worth NOT ?
Technically iirc, you can SUE the misspellt domain out of the registrant, as it could still be defined as passing off, but what cost a lawsuit over a few domains in the grand scale of things?
It also shows your a pro-active corp., net savvy...
www.123reg.com
summit like £9 per year for .com and £5 for .co.uk PLUS free email/web forwarding, and free control and reliable hosting of DNS records if needed!
as well as free nameserver transfers
summit like £9 per year for .com and £5 for .co.uk PLUS free email/web forwarding, and free control and reliable hosting of DNS records if needed!
as well as free nameserver transfers
fto2tuscan said:
summit like £9 per year for .com and £5 for .co.uk PLUS free email/web forwarding, and free control and reliable hosting of DNS records if needed!
as well as free nameserver transfers
I think most places offer these services nowadays
the customer has a wealth of choice in the market place, with the only real differentiator nowadays between 'the big guys' being 2 fold. a) Support
and
b) Stability
Make of that what you will
simpo two said:
simpo two said:
What's a fair rate for a uk.com address?
Just under 1p
You've lost me.
Joviality, based on the uselessness of the .uk.com extension. like the whole myriad of new extensions being foisted upon us now, purely for the commercial benefit of the Registrars.
New out this week, .xxx
IMHO, com .co.uk and .net at a push for businesses, .org and if you really must, .org.uk,
The rest can FOAD.
Lovely :|
JamieBeeston said:
like the whole myriad of new extensions being foisted upon us now, purely for the commercial benefit of the Registrars.
New out this week, .xxx
IMHO, com .co.uk and .net at a push for businesses, .org and if you really must, .org.uk,
The rest can FOAD.
Lovely :|
Could not agree more, I reckon 85-90% of all our registrations are defensive, in fact for a large company with a number of brands they will feel obliged to register each brand name and variants (miss-spellings, sound a likes etc) for each tld, of which there are hundreds. If a new extension comes out they register every brand and its variations for that tld – it is pointless, unless as Jamie says you are a registrar, in which case you are laughing all the way to the bank.
fto2tuscan said:That's funny. I've just had a quick look, and 123reg.com seems to be completely different to 123-reg.com (a.k.a. 123-reg.co.uk), which is part of Host Europe.
www.123reg.com
Can it get much more confusing?
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