Help me. CLS or S Class.
Help me. CLS or S Class.
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MidnightXR6

Original Poster:

818 posts

193 months

Saturday 2nd January 2016
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To begin with i was considering An Audi A8 with either the W12 or 4.2 TDI.

Ive come across a couple of lovely CLS500 388hp models for reasonable cash.

As you do though trawl through the classifieds and find a decent S500 and S600 bi turbo up within a reasonable price.

Now being new to Mercedes what are the basics I need to be on look out for?

Obviously any one i buy im asking for decent warranty plus some extras

village idiot

3,223 posts

291 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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do you want the practicality of 5 seats, or will 4 do?

MidnightXR6

Original Poster:

818 posts

193 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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Either tbh.

Its more of a regular work car.

Mr Roper

14,151 posts

218 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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Camaro.

MidnightXR6

Original Poster:

818 posts

193 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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Mr Roper said:
Camaro.
Tempting my good man

J4CKO

46,009 posts

224 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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I have had a CLS 500 with the 388 bhp and engine for a month and I have to say it is lovely, the S class is a level up in terms of ultimate luxury but the CLS is hardly slumming it, the 388 bhp moves it very well, it is never lacking in power but obviously if you go for a higher power/supercharged one that will be even faster but so far, I have never thought, hmm this needs more power, I did with my 350Z but not with this, its 388 bhp after all, even being heavy its enough to gain speed rapidly, under 5 sec has been recorded to sixty, 100 in under 12.

I would love to try a S Class, I expect with the same engine it will be impressive, if not quite as quick for being a bit heavier, but there isnt that much in it.

Ty and get a post facelift CLS otherwise you can end up with the lower powered engine, its nice but the 388 bhp engine makes a big difference, watch out for the engine number, make sure it misses out on the M273 cam chain issues and the daft SBC brakes, check that it sits right ont he air suspension and doesnt sink when stood.

I think the CLS is better looking, the S class is more of a proper saloon, access to the rear in the CLS is not brilliant but ok.

If you get an oily smell, like burning, its probably two plugs at the back of the engine, easy and cheap diy fix, but a good bargaining point ?

MidnightXR6

Original Poster:

818 posts

193 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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What engine number am I looking for then?

Also Svcs brakes would it have that being an 08 model cls?

KungFuPanda

4,589 posts

194 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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What's your budget? I was an Audi man previously having had 2 V10 S6's one saloon and then an avant interspersed with a couple of Range Rovers.

Like you, I was looking into an A8 or more specifically a D3 S8 but the ones in my budget were high mileage and a bit rough.

J4CKO will tell you that I was very close to going to see the CLS he had bought. I decided against it as I had enough of big petrol engines. Instead I went for a 2008 S class. 320 CDI with the 3.0 V6 engine. It's got the Brabus bodykit on as well as the D6 chip taking power to around 270bhp. I absolutely love it. So much more luxurious than my previous cars. I don't really miss the power of the petrol cars however the power delivery of a chipped turbo diesel makes it feel quite fast. The ride is great on air suspension even with 20" wheels. Plenty of toys including heated memory massage seats and night vision. I'd go S class all the way. The only way to tell us to take both out for a test drive.

J4CKO, come have a drive of mine if you're ever in Manchester City Centre!

J4CKO

46,009 posts

224 months

Tuesday 5th January 2016
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KungFuPanda said:
What's your budget? I was an Audi man previously having had 2 V10 S6's one saloon and then an avant interspersed with a couple of Range Rovers.

Like you, I was looking into an A8 or more specifically a D3 S8 but the ones in my budget were high mileage and a bit rough.

J4CKO will tell you that I was very close to going to see the CLS he had bought. I decided against it as I had enough of big petrol engines. Instead I went for a 2008 S class. 320 CDI with the 3.0 V6 engine. It's got the Brabus bodykit on as well as the D6 chip taking power to around 270bhp. I absolutely love it. So much more luxurious than my previous cars. I don't really miss the power of the petrol cars however the power delivery of a chipped turbo diesel makes it feel quite fast. The ride is great on air suspension even with 20" wheels. Plenty of toys including heated memory massage seats and night vision. I'd go S class all the way. The only way to tell us to take both out for a test drive.

J4CKO, come have a drive of mine if you're ever in Manchester City Centre!
I will, let me know where/when, will come over for a low alcohol beer biggrin

I think the S class is definitely peerless in terms of luxury, not that the CLS is slumming it, it was the shape that drew me to it, next time it will have a supercharger, not that I feel like I need extra, just that there is more available, I think though you summed it up by saying you were bored of big petrols, I expect you get to a position where enough performance is plenty and any more is just extra cost and hassle, a remapped big diesel is never felt to be lackign in real world driving, in fact generally seems quicker than most, most of the time.

MidnightXR6

Original Poster:

818 posts

193 months

Wednesday 6th January 2016
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Ive experienced the 3.0 v6 derv engine before when i had a jeep Commander.

Remapped and dpf removed with a straight exhaust on it. Sounded lovely but im going onto my v8 phase.

ruggedscotty

5,946 posts

233 months

Wednesday 6th January 2016
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My father had an S class and then hes got a CLS now - both with the 350 bluetec engine.

Im 45 and prefer the CLS against the S Class - yes the S class is a superb car but its heavy an it is huge. The CLS looks better and doesnt have the high end taxi feel about it that the S class has.

svracers

426 posts

243 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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I would go for a 2012 onward cls350 cdi amg after driving both cars in question... But then again i am biased 😂😉

svracers

426 posts

243 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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MidnightXR6

Original Poster:

818 posts

193 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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I would like the new shape but it has to be the v8.

J4CKO

46,009 posts

224 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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MidnightXR6 said:
I would like the new shape but it has to be the v8.
New shape CLS's seem to all be diesel or AMG 63 versions, never seen a CLS 500 in the new shape

anonymous-user

78 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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J4CKO said:
MidnightXR6 said:
I would like the new shape but it has to be the v8.
New shape CLS's seem to all be diesel or AMG 63 versions, never seen a CLS 500 in the new shape
In the USA we sell CLS400, 550 and AMG63.


J4CKO

46,009 posts

224 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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unrepentant said:
J4CKO said:
MidnightXR6 said:
I would like the new shape but it has to be the v8.
New shape CLS's seem to all be diesel or AMG 63 versions, never seen a CLS 500 in the new shape
In the USA we sell CLS400, 550 and AMG63.
Yeah, have seen a CLS 400 for sale, the Autocar review car was a CLS 500 so I think they sell it over here, but nobody buys the intermediate versions, its either diesel or AMG. The Merc configurator only lists the 400 and C63 now.

James P

3,031 posts

261 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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J4CKO said:
MidnightXR6 said:
I would like the new shape but it has to be the v8.
New shape CLS's seem to all be diesel or AMG 63 versions, never seen a CLS 500 in the new shape
As well as diesels and 63 versions, there's a 400 coupe with the petrol V6 that is not available as a shooting brake.