C43 - all may not be as it seems...
C43 - all may not be as it seems...
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rubystone

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11,254 posts

288 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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An innocently worded advert, but as Chiefski and I know, all is not as it seems with this car....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

I looked at the car nearly 3 years ago. At the time the odometer read....88,000 miles....it appears to have covered not one mile more over those 3 years.....according to the ebay advert....

Digging into the service history (such as it was) I found that it first reached 88,000 miles in around 2005....

After I rejected it, it did indeed get sold to a guy who worked for Carrs in Exeter....but it certainly wasn't taken in partex by them!

Apart from these two discrepancies, the car was a bit "weatherbeaten" when I looked at it, but I believe that the chap who worked at Carrs resolved the rot issues and the tatty trim issues.

My bid of £3k was accepted for it, by the way....so it apears to have appreciated in value!

So buy with your eyes open and pay what you think a car with at least 6 figures under its belt would be worth....

It's amazing how many cars are out there with stories...I am waiting for T183 LRM to (re) appear - that's my C43 that was stolen and written off in 2008....I still have the service history, manuals and one key for that car :-)






chiefski26

856 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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I agree with above. KEEP AWAY !!

MoonMonkey

2,331 posts

242 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Have you contacted the seller..??

rubystone

Original Poster:

11,254 posts

288 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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MoonMonkey said:
Have you contacted the seller..??
Yes and he didn't see the need to re-word the advertisement, unlike the guy who sold it back in 2008.

Caveat emptor...but I do hope that using the auspices of PH in this way is a service to our petrolhead community smile


RichNicholls

2 posts

195 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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Yeah, someone on here at least has a good idea, contact the seller: Me. At no time have I said the mileage is verified, and you have no proof of what you're implying, according to your emails to me.

Soovy

35,829 posts

300 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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Where's the popcorn!


Slinky

15,704 posts

278 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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Soovy said:
Where's the popcorn!
In the microwave, I'll let you know when it's done..

Soovy

35,829 posts

300 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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RichNicholls said:
Yeah, someone on here at least has a good idea, contact the seller: Me. At no time have I said the mileage is verified, and you have no proof of what you're implying, according to your emails to me.
You do state the mileage to be 88k. If we're being pedantic you should say "showing 88k miles on the clock (not warranted)".





anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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I don't see the problem with him selling it for more than it was up for a few years back, especially if it's had 'tatty' paintowrk tidied up and a huge amount of work as per the ebay ad, there's easily a couple of grands worth of fairly recent work listed there.

christer

2,804 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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RichNicholls said:
Yeah, someone on here at least has a good idea, contact the seller: Me. At no time have I said the mileage is verified, and you have no proof of what you're implying, according to your emails to me.
Do you have proof that it is a "good example"? In fact, do you have a definition of what you consider to be a good example?

RichNicholls

2 posts

195 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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Soovy said:
RichNicholls said:
Yeah, someone on here at least has a good idea, contact the seller: Me. At no time have I said the mileage is verified, and you have no proof of what you're implying, according to your emails to me.
You do state the mileage to be 88k. If we're being pedantic you should say "showing 88k miles on the clock (not warranted)".
Ok, fair enough, I admit I didn't have the car next to me when I wrote the advert, I suppose I should have put it exact. I know these cars take the mileage well, but it really is in good condition now, and I have reported all that I know in that advert. I'm sure you can all appreciate that I simply can't take as true something which someone emails to tell me.
I do feel as though this is a type of cyber-bullying though, ie 'your car isn't what you say it is so I'm going to warn everyone about it'. You must know that I am not being untruthful about this car, I really am giving all the information as I know it. Plus, I'm pretty good with cars, having been a car mag editor for the past 20 years and having built seven or so project cars, plus built two of the Haynes/Max Power Peugeots for their modifying manuals. And I can honestly say that this is a very good car (I would say that, I know, but it is). Okay, it's not as immaculate as some lesser used, more expensive C43s out there, but it does look very tidy and, as the guy above has noted, it's had around £4000 spent on it in the past two years of my ownership, on mostly mechanical work and a bit of bodywork. Hope this helps.

rubystone

Original Poster:

11,254 posts

288 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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RichNicholls said:
Soovy said:
RichNicholls said:
Yeah, someone on here at least has a good idea, contact the seller: Me. At no time have I said the mileage is verified, and you have no proof of what you're implying, according to your emails to me.
You do state the mileage to be 88k. If we're being pedantic you should say "showing 88k miles on the clock (not warranted)".
Ok, fair enough, I admit I didn't have the car next to me when I wrote the advert, I suppose I should have put it exact. I know these cars take the mileage well, but it really is in good condition now, and I have reported all that I know in that advert. I'm sure you can all appreciate that I simply can't take as true something which someone emails to tell me.
I do feel as though this is a type of cyber-bullying though, ie 'your car isn't what you say it is so I'm going to warn everyone about it'. You must know that I am not being untruthful about this car, I really am giving all the information as I know it. Plus, I'm pretty good with cars, having been a car mag editor for the past 20 years and having built seven or so project cars, plus built two of the Haynes/Max Power Peugeots for their modifying manuals. And I can honestly say that this is a very good car (I would say that, I know, but it is). Okay, it's not as immaculate as some lesser used, more expensive C43s out there, but it does look very tidy and, as the guy above has noted, it's had around £4000 spent on it in the past two years of my ownership, on mostly mechanical work and a bit of bodywork. Hope this helps.
Hi Rich. I think I mentioned that the previous owner had spent a lot on the car - but then he needed to - it had led a hard life - dings in both doors, etc...but all fixable....I did make an offer on the car after all..... Most C43s have had paint at some time after all and there are a hell of a lot of dogs out there...and a lot of clocked cars too!

But the recall database told me that the mileage was incorrect when I looked at it and in the ebay ad you wrote, you mentioned that Carrs had taken the car in partex, which somehow gives it that "main dealer" stamp of approval. I can accept that the previous owner may have told you that, but did he also tell you that the mileage was not genuine?

Oh and it's not "cyber bullying" - I didn't threaten to tell anyone about your car, I just suggested you might like to modify the advert a little. Your attitude was clear - you weren't going to change it smile

Good luck in selling it though - they are truly epic cars!