Lancia Integrale 8v go faster tips.

[911944]

Hi,

I have a 91 8v. It is mechanically very good, I am planning on doing a lot of work to the car in the coming months. The engine and box is coming out and all pipes etc will be changed. Any way at the minute the car is standard with the exception of an evo engineering chip.

I'd like it to be faster, ideally around 250-280 bhp.

How would I go about this? Obviously I know certain precautionary measures need to be taken (head studs, and general health checks on the engine etc)

So what would be the most cost effective way of achieving my power goals? I do not want to fit a 16v engine before someone says it .

Thanks in advance,

[Fulvisti]

Probably the most cost effective mod would be porting the head, three angles on the valves and seats, and tilting the intercooler to give a straight run to the turbo intake to remove the duck pecker and help spool up time. Both are quite cheap and easy to do yourself. I'm just about to start putting my integrale 8v engine back together, and have done the head, I'll be tilting the intercooler too. Google the tilt mod or check out lanciasport.com forum for more ideas. I'm also fitting a Guy Croft inlet cam and a newer ball bearing turbo, oh plus bigger injectors. You'll need re map with too there is a place that can remap the oem Marelli ECU, and you'll find more about that at Lancia sport. Hope this helps for a start

[WIJ933]

911944 said:

Hi,

I have a 91 8v. It is mechanically very good, I am planning on doing a lot of work to the car in the coming months. The engine and box is coming out and all pipes etc will be changed. Any way at the minute the car is standard with the exception of an evo engineering chip.

I'd like it to be faster, ideally around 250-280 bhp.

How would I go about this? Obviously I know certain precautionary measures need to be taken (head studs, and general health checks on the engine etc)

So what would be the most cost effective way of achieving my power goals? I do not want to fit a 16v engine before someone says it .

Thanks in advance,

My question is WHY??

IMHO if someone is lucky enough to own a Integrale then keep it standard as it is a classic and iconic car. Why then 'boy racer' it which puts buyers off if you ever sell it.

[Fulvisti]

True, too many have been messed with. I'm making sure I can reverse anything I do if need be. Apart from fitting the new turbo, I couldn't find an original replacement for mine when I was looking, the turbine housing has a four inch crack. I'm hoping I never have to sell mine.

[Harris_I]

WIJ933 said:

My question is WHY??

IMHO if someone is lucky enough to own a Integrale then keep it standard as it is a classic and iconic car. Why then 'boy racer' it which puts buyers off if you ever sell it.

Because the engine is pretty unstressed in its standard tune and so much can be done with the chassis to upgrade it to modern standards without compromising the original feel of the car.

Modern turbos and sympathetic engine upgrades can bring it up to the performance of Jap rally reps without too much trouble, and the original suspension was fairly primitive - the modern stuff can make the ride and handling so much more controlled and comfortable at the same time, and some chassis strengthening can help to preserve that old fashioned flexi shell.

The car is still fundamentally an integrale, just slightly evolved.

[911944]

Thanks for the input.

I don't want to do anything larey or boy racerish. Just want to give the car a little bit more poke. I have already upgraded the suspension. I've replaced the shocks with coil overs, replaced the bushes and bolts etc. Powder coated and detailed all components etc. I've done a proper geo set up too including corner weights.

As some one else said, they Want to be able to revert the car to standard with ease. I'm the same.

As good a car the Integrale is, there is a lot of improvement that can be made in terms of suspension.

I don't intend on selling the car neither.

Thanks, Tom

[DJRC]

So you have played with the suspension but not the chassis strengthening and now you want to shove more grunt through the car?

Good luck, but I would recommend the chassis work!

[Fulvisti]

Very good advice! They do have a tendancy to crack the shells, more so the Evo's with more power, but for a car from the 70's, originally designed for a 1300, they've come a long way.

[Jacobyte]

To get more power, you'll need to up the boost, and to manage that properly you will need the MAP sensor from a 16v, otherwise you're restricted to about 250bhp.

Other than that and turbo options, a good head, GrpA gasket, good tubular manifold, straight run to the intercooler, and you'll be fine.

Money would be very well spent on learning to drive it at the limit, as it the fun is raised to another level when you're beyond the tyres' slip angles.

[911944]

I have strengthened the shell with under body brace bars etc. I'm not looking to blow the cars brains out with a massive turbo etc I just wanted some advice on how to get the best out of the engine. thanks for all the info