Fiat Fiorino MkII
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Liquid Knight

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Friday 17th January 2014
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Okay I bought this...



...1.7D Fiorino for £148. A little bit of welding...



...and a number plate light bulb and the old bus is on the road. smile

I'm the second owner, the van have covered 134,000 miles and serviced up to 128,000. smile

This is not a project thread just a blog and log of events.







For what the van owes me it's not that bad looking, massive load space but as you'd expect there are a few niggles.

I thought this was a nice touch...



...a nice waterproof cover for the drivers door lock? No it's a rubber grommet from something else because there is no drivers door lock. I'll swap the drivers and passengers door handles and Q-Bond the seal in place. wink

Snapped choke cable...



...that's a manual fuel pump advance for cold starting.



I've searched everywhere possible and/or plausible trying to find a replacement cable but for a start it has no name; it's not a cold start actuator cable, a manual fuel pump advance cable, a fuel pump advance actuator cable, cold start advance cable, choke cable or any combination of what it does as a title. I've looked a dozens of technical drawings of the pump and it isn't labeled on a single one of them. No name; no part number no idea where or how to get hold of one. So I've raided the kit car boys shelf and bought a 1.8m universal choke cable. If that doesn't work I'll have to use a door popper and switch or something. Without the advance cold starting the van is problematic. It runs like a cement mixer fill of coal and smokes like the Pyramid Tent at Glastonbury.

The strap is missing...



...from the passenger rear door so I have a nice crease...



...to go with all the age related dents and rust patches. wink


226bhp

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Friday 17th January 2014
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It's of absolutely no use whatsoever, but the engine block in that thing is from the Lampredi family, the twin cam cylinder heads from the Fiats and Lancias (including integrale and 131) of that era fit straight on.

You could therefore (if you were stupid enough) build a 16v TC petrol turbo 1.7. (or bore it to 1.8 maybe)
The cast crank probably wouldn't cope with too much RPM though....

Liquid Knight

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Friday 17th January 2014
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Similar to my old Delta HF. Tuning wise I was looking at newer turbo diesels and the JTD range. The Fiorino predates the modular range so JTD's are out. The 1.9 TD from bigger vans should be a shoe in.

Liquid Knight

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Sunday 19th January 2014
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The kit car cable I bought to replace the snapped cold start advance worked until I tightened the clamp on the pump itself...



...and the shaft snapped. furious

So the cable will remain in place until I can make a new shaft out of something that won't snap. A revolutionary material that has been used for thousands of years; called "metal".



In a happier note the reverse bleeper is now fitted and I've used some reflective red tape to make a couple of hazard triangles for the back doors.




Liquid Knight

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Monday 20th January 2014
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I was thinking blue...



...but since I a did Fantasia green...



...I kind of like it. wink

Liquid Knight

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Wednesday 22nd January 2014
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I've got a bit of scrap shaft and machined a thread on the end with the lathe at work (I really need to get myself one at some point).



The plan is to remove the plastic shaft from the pump and at the lever end drill a hole through the cap and use the nylock nut to hold the metal shaft in place. At the other end of the metal shaft I'll weld a wire clamp in place so the cable can be attached.

So here's the big question can the plastic shaft be removed from the fuel pump advance lever without taking the whole bloody pump off?

I can see how myself, even if I take the glow pugs and out of the way.

Liquid Knight

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Friday 24th January 2014
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It doesn't look like the shaft will come out without taking the whole pump off. That's another five hours added to the job. Grrrrr. banghead

Liquid Knight

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Sunday 26th January 2014
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Liquid Knight

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Friday 31st January 2014
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The passenger side front suspension mount went last night on the way to work.



I'm not surprised at all. There was only half an inch of weld holding it on and the rest was filler and clear silicone (for a change instead of black Tiger Seal).

I needed to get home so I used a tow strap and a post to push the van straight and held it with bailing wire.



Good enough to get me home and the van still handled better than a Mondeo. hehe

Liquid Knight

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Sunday 2nd February 2014
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This adventure continues. The brake hose clamp failed (due to corrosion) and the hose split on the rim with a couple of miles to go.



rolleyes

Thankfully my Panda hose is a straight swap so in no time at all...



...the bleed nipple sheered off. rolleyes

In the recorded history of mankind there has never been an instant where a sheered bleed nipple has been successfully removed from a brake caliper; so a little ahead of schedule...



...Punto GT calipers and Cinquecento conversion discs. woohoo

So new shoes?



The Strada wheels need 20mm spacers. frown



So Punto GT wheels for the time being. wink

The shed surface rust will wear away in no time and already the brakes feel a lot better than the standard ones.


Liquid Knight

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Monday 3rd February 2014
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Typical old car bodge...



...nearly new-ish pads one side...



...nearly completely knackered ones the other side. rolleyes

New pads on the way and my old Fantasia discs will do for now. I just need to drill and retap the nipple hole.

Liquid Knight

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Tuesday 4th February 2014
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With new pads on the way the other bleed nipple sheered off. Cast Iron calipers so welding is out and stud extractors simply do not have never and will never, ever; ever remove a sheered nipple: so I'm off the breakers yard to see if Punto ones will fit. frown

Liquid Knight

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Saturday 8th February 2014
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Look...



...the log book is right...



...the van is red. hehe

I got bored and raided the t-cut. wink

Liquid Knight

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Tuesday 11th February 2014
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http://www.bgcmotorsport.co.uk/



Superb brake lines so my van can have crap brakes again. wink


Liquid Knight

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Wednesday 12th February 2014
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Brakes done (again) but someone has drained a quarter of a tank of Diesel so I ran out moving the van from one driveway to the other. furious

Liquid Knight

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Thursday 13th February 2014
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Banjo nipple ends. Good idea?



Nope, they're fking lethal! furious

Edited by Liquid Knight on Thursday 13th February 11:09

Liquid Knight

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Thursday 13th February 2014
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That was a lot of hard work and effort...



...just so I can have rubbish brakes again. Once the new pads bed in I'm sure they'll be fine, they're as good as they were before but compared to the Punto GT brakes they are terrible.

So now I have the steel wheels back on...





...I can back to the chap who made me an offer for it. wink

Liquid Knight

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Monday 3rd March 2014
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Yesterday I put the Punto GT brakes on my 90 Sporting so I could...

...remove the crap Fiorino brakes...



...and fit the really rather good Punto ones to the van.



Along with my black GT wheels with matching directional balanced tyres...



...the van now looks like this...



..again.

smile

Liquid Knight

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Tuesday 4th March 2014
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Liquid Knight

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Tuesday 4th March 2014
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Working on my mates Punto tonight.

Here's how we lock TDC in Norfolk.



hehe