2006 Alfa 147 1.6 Ti sudden decrease in low down power
2006 Alfa 147 1.6 Ti sudden decrease in low down power
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Alfa147guy

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7 posts

106 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Recently felt a noticeable decrease in low down power/torque, any ideas how I can rectify this problem?

Vitorio

4,296 posts

163 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Which 1.6 do you have? The 105hp or the 120hp version? The 120 has a cam variator which might be stuck in high RPM mode?

Alfa147guy

Original Poster:

7 posts

106 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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I have the 120 version, how would I know if the cam variator is definitely "stuck" in that mode?

Vitorio

4,296 posts

163 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Alfa147guy said:
I have the 120 version, how would I know if the cam variator is definitely "stuck" in that mode?
I dont know TBH, i have a 105hp 1.6 myself

From what google tells me, i think (i stress think) the variator should kick in at ~2000 rpm, so if the car behaves as normal above 2K rpm, it might very well be that.


Alfa147guy

Original Poster:

7 posts

106 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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It feels pretty flat below about 4000 rpm 😞 It never used to. Still feels the same as it used to from about 4000-7000. How big a job is it to fix the variator?

RicksAlfas

14,210 posts

264 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Variators often make a rattly diesel sound on startup when they have failed. Usually they stick in the high position, so flat out high rev performance is unaffected. Their failure is often caused by dirty oil, so when you put the new one on, get the oil changed and keep up to it.

Useful guide here:
http://www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/cambelt_variator_wat...

Alfa147guy

Original Poster:

7 posts

106 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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The car does sound quite rattly on idle, especially when cold, is there any chance changing the oil may coax the variator back into life?

RicksAlfas

14,210 posts

264 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Doubtful it would help.

When was the cambelt last done? You could get it done next time you get the belt done.
(Ideally 3 years or 36,000 miles).

Alfa147guy

Original Poster:

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106 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Cam belt and water pump were done 1000 miles ago, I don't think the variator was changed at that point

RicksAlfas

14,210 posts

264 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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That's a shame. It used to be convention to do it at the same time.

Alfa147guy

Original Poster:

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106 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Are there any ways I can try and get the variator going again without actually going in there and replacing it?

RicksAlfas

14,210 posts

264 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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None that I know of I'm afraid. Sorry.

We are assuming it's the variator. As you've had the belt changed so recently you could ask the garage to check the timing is OK.

Vitorio

4,296 posts

163 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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IIRC from my googling it yesterday, you might be able to fit a revision kit to the variator without taking the belt off

Alfa147guy

Original Poster:

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106 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Is that an easy job? I'm not very confident working on my own car.

RicksAlfas

14,210 posts

264 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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