Yippee!! 33mpg...
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saxmund

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364 posts

251 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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... on a run to Wales and back. Much better than I was getting - although the tank doesn't seem to take as much petrol as I thought. The warning light had just come on, but last night I could only get 51 litres in, and the gauge now reads to the right of full. According to the manual it's supposed to take 63 litres plus 7 reserve.

I am now hooked, and seriously considering an airbox and a remap.

pdV6

16,442 posts

277 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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Assuming it has the same 70 litre tank as mine (which I doubt, actually ), my reserve light comes on with a good 15 litres remaining.

saxmund

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364 posts

251 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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The warning light comes on before the needle reaches zero, so maybe there’s a few litres left at that point before the reserve is used. In any case, I’m not 100% convinced of the accuracy of the gauge – petrol seems to be used up faster below half full.

wombat rick

14,090 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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saxmund said:
petrol seems to be used up faster below half full.


They all do that. The first half is much bigger you see.

pdV6

16,442 posts

277 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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wombat rick said:

saxmund said:
petrol seems to be used up faster below half full.



They all do that. The first half is much bigger you see.


Might not be as silly as it sounds! I guess it depends on the shape of the tank and how the signals from the fuel sender are interpreted. I'd guess that the tank is wider at the top and a linear singnal is mapped onto a linear scale on the fuel guage. Personally I'd prefer the (just as cheap) option of a non-linear guage 'cos at least you would know where you stood, then.

tr7v8

7,449 posts

244 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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2.4 JTD SW does 40+ normally 480 on a tankfull, in fact just recently having slowed down just a fraction its now 43MPG!

Jim

saxmund

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Thursday 5th May 2005
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I admit to anti-diesel prejudice... but on more rational grounds, assuming 9000 miles this year, that 10mpg will only cost me £250. A 2.4 JTD would have cost more to buy than a 2.0TS, so over the period I'm likely to have the car I don't think I'm likely to be out of pocket. On the other hand, I am thinking of having a remap to give me more torque in the 2-3000 rev range - which I presume I wouldn't have had to do with a diesel. But remap alone is only a couple of hundred quid.

pwig

11,971 posts

286 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Don't forget the extra £100 to £300 a year serving costs.

saxmund

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251 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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On my car or the oil-burner?

tr7v8

7,449 posts

244 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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I do 36K miles a year so its a bigger difference, but I much prefer the way the JTD drives. It has massive reserves of torque and pulls like a train. This makes it feel much faster than a 2 TS or JTS. And overtaking is amazing at around 60-70. The only time
it becomes a pain is on the twisty bits when you notice the heavier engine.

Jim

saxmund

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364 posts

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Thursday 5th May 2005
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The 2.0TS feels pretty lively at 70 or 80. At 130 kph in 5th it does c 3800 revs, which is right on the maximum of the torque curve. And so far my nerve has failed before the car’s ability to go round corners fast. However, where it’s a bit of a pain is if you let the revs drop to 2000 or so – for example, if you’re in heavy traffic on a motorway and don’t notice you’re now doing 60 in 5th. It can also be annoying having to rev its socks off to make rapid progress – on the other hand, this is also most definitely enjoyable, and personally I quite like being able to make a choice between driving fairly sedately or like a hooligan, and the TS’s torque curve allows you to do that. And the engine note is superb.

I admit I was going to try a V6 and a JTD but didn’t get round to it… there aren’t that many V6 sportwagons about, and then I found a 2.0TS with Momo seats at a reasonable price so I went into impulse purchase mode. I was getting fed up with flogging the old car up and down the motorway and wanted to change it sooner rather than later. Assuming I get another Alfa next time, I’ll give myself a bit more time to try out the different options.