Fiat coupe turbo 16v- integrale evo2 differences.

[deltashad]

My integrale evo is having a full body restoration. The engine is also in bad shape.
I have the opportunity to purchase a fiat coupe turbo 16v. It's at a good price and was thinking of buying as a donar car.
Would this be a bad move? I'm sure there aren't that many differences between the two. Does anyone have experience with this?

[crankedup]

I have been busy researching my purchase of a Fiat Coupe 20v, I read that the 16v version is
a popular donor car for the integral. Sorry can’t add anything else.

[magooagain]

It would be a shame to use a 16vt as a donor car as there a very few on the road and are worth owning in stock or tuned form and can make big power.

But if it's past it then the engine is perfect for your needs.

Edited by magooagain on Tuesday 25th June 17:32

[Pereldh]

And you can really only use the engine as everything else is completely different.
Of course the Coupe is a Tipo-platform while the Delta is all Ritmo/Strada (UK).

[GTVOX]

I've done this but it's not a straight swap. The engine is effectively the same unit but there are a lot of small changes you have to do to make it fit. Obviously the sump casing also the oil pick up pipe. The ancilliary items on the block and head are also different such as thermostat housing, some of the water outlets and also the knock sensor. Just allow several hours to switch over the parts and you'll be ok.

[GTRene]

I guess the Fiat engine is also more reliable? and what more are the pros of such engine, can they also handle more reliable hp with say the oem internals?

[magooagain]

I think I'm correct in saying the the coupe 16 vt engine is only good to go up to around 250 hp any more and forged internals would be needed.

The 20 vt is good to 350 hp and some say more on stock internals. Forge the engine and 500 hp is considered safe with the write mapping etc. There are bigger horse power coupes about though. Think 700 hp.

[GTVOX]

Same engine. Same internals - cam specs are sometimes different but a standard engine can handle around 300hp.

[deltashad]

Thanks for the feedback on this.
The cams are totally unserviceable. I'm now thinking this is not such a good idea.
Probably the best solution is to speak with Tanc or Keith about just sending the engine (from Romania) back to the UK and getting it rebuilt or purchase a reconditioned unit.
I was hoping i could salvage more parts from the brake system etc if needed to keep the costs down. There may be too many differences and to detract from stock would not be in keeping. My cheap fix plan could be more problematic than progressive.

Guess I have to bite the bullet. So many projects ongoing.... Something has to give.

[GTRene]

magooagain said:

I think I'm correct in saying the the coupe 16 vt engine is only good to go up to around 250 hp any more and forged internals would be needed.

The 20 vt is good to 350 hp and some say more on stock internals. Forge the engine and 500 hp is considered safe with the write mapping etc. There are bigger horse power coupes about though. Think 700 hp.

would such 5 cyll fit in say such Lancia Delta? (integrale)

[GTVOX]

That would be practically impossible as the transfer box bolts to the sump of the 16v. Think it will be too long.
Don't give up so easily - it's not just a straight drop in I think with the changeover I took my time and it added an extra 3 days work - you can pick up a good coupe engine for hundreds whearas a rebuild will be thousands.