GTV 3.0 V6 /GTV CUP V6

[THE BIG DOG]

Hi folks. Just a quick question. I'm looking to buy a GTV V6 and for every day drive to replace the Calibra. I have had 2 alfa spiders and are a cracking little runners and want to know are the GTV Cups worth the extra premium over the standard V6 GTV?
Thanks in advance.
Gareth

[jamesgrrr]

I would say so, they'll fare better in depreciation terms and they make a beautiful car look even better. As far as i know nothing is improved other than cosmetically though.

[pdV6]

Cosmetic changes only. If you happen to like the changes then a Cup might be the car for you.

I guess residuals are *slightly* better due to limited supply but pretty much all the mods are available after-market if you really must have the Cup look but can't find one that fits the bill.

[jamesgrrr]

I suppose it depends how much you've got to spend - If you can afford the updated 3.2 V6 then it'll be better than the cup.

[OperationAlfa]

The cup is worth it for looks alone. And it is limited edition and therefore "special"

[pdV6]

OperationAlfa said:

The cup is worth it for looks alone. And it is limited edition and therefore "special"

That's the thing.

The mechanical bits are the same so it's just the looks that set it apart.
Looks, however, are a subjective thing.

[jamieboy]

pdV6 said:

OperationAlfa said:

The cup is worth it for looks alone. And it is limited edition and therefore "special"

That's the thing.

The mechanical bits are the same so it's just the looks that set it apart.
Looks, however, are a subjective thing.

Definitely - not knocking the Cup at all, but to me it's not quite as nice looking as a 'normal' GTV.

I guess one plus point with the Cup is that most of the people who have one tend to really look after it. And the finish on the wheels is nice, too.

Cups do fetch a premium, and I personally wouldn't pay more to have a mechanically-identical car that looks a bit less nice. A standard GTV 3.0 without the aerokit would be my favourite.

[THE BIG DOG]

Thanks for clearing that up. I will be joining the Alfa ranks soon.
Another question. Does anyone know what happened to the Cup that someone done right up inside such as a one off dash and Lambo doors etc. Looked yum!

[_dodge_]

THE BIG DOG said:

Does anyone know what happened to the Cup that someone done right up inside such as a one off dash and Lambo doors etc. Looked yum!

They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but please tell me you're being sarcastic here.

[THE BIG DOG]

_dodge_ said:

THE BIG DOG said:

Does anyone know what happened to the Cup that someone done right up inside such as a one off dash and Lambo doors etc. Looked yum!

As you said
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and what I can remember seeing of it.....I did!

[THE BIG DOG]

Lookig at this puppy later.
v6 CUP

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/ALFA...

Thing to look out for would be a great help on these cars?

Edited by THE BIG DOG on Tuesday 15th April 11:54

[Andyt25]

Wasn't the cup made just before the face lift. Usually these kind of LDE are made to move on the last of the old stock.

Must say I like the look and the seats are better without the ribbed leather. When I went from a TS GTV to the V6 I couldn't get as comfy as in the TS because of the leather...it looked fab but you seemed to sit higher.

Was the cup only made in red?

[jamieboy]

Andyt25 said:

Wasn't the cup made just before the face lift. Usually these kind of LDE are made to move on the last of the old stock.

Was the cup only made in red?

UK cars were all red 3.0, but there was a silver 2.0 turbo for the continent.

Don't think it was a run-out model as such, the phase 3 facelift wasn't until 2003, and the Cup came out in 2001. I thought they built them for homologation so they could have a dedicated race series?

[jamieboy]

THE BIG DOG said:

Thing to look out for would be a great help on these cars?

Have a look here, the Alfa Workshop site.

http://www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/alfa_romeo_gtv.shtml

There are buyer's guides on the alfaowner.com and sportsalfa.com sites too.

[THE BIG DOG]

jamieboy said:

THE BIG DOG said:

Thing to look out for would be a great help on these cars?

Have a look here, the Alfa Workshop site.

http://www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/alfa_romeo_gtv.shtml

There are buyer's guides on the alfaowner.com and sportsalfa.com sites too.

Thanks. Very good site.

Have just viewed the V6 Cup and that one was not for me.
Reason being rear arms need replacing, air bag light stayed on, very poor paint job due to a door damage, cracked front splitter, door chips, washer pump not working and a small oil leak at the front of the engine.
Plus to top it off the bloke got arsie about price. He seems to think it's a good price for it's condition!
Oh, and the clutch was very heavy!
Anyone know of any top GTV V6 lusso or Cups?

Edited by THE BIG DOG on Tuesday 15th April 18:25

[JR]

THE BIG DOG said:

Reason being rear arms need replacing, air ... a small oil leak at the front of the engine.

Can I ask why the rear arms needed to be replaced? As for the oil leek I think that this is likely to be the pipes to the oil cooler which usually also involves buying a new oil cooler

V6Alfisti said:

....if you do buy one, buy the lowest mileage car with the greatest amount of work done.

On the GTV V6 check for:-

Cambelt changed (every 5 years or 72k whichever comes first)£500-750
Oil Cooler and associated pipes replaced (£200-300)
Clutch Slip £500-700
Key Code not going out
Red/brown master key (over a thousand for a new key from what i've heard)
Rear Bushes (these are rose jointed on the V6 and less prone to wear)
Air Flow Meter £150 ish

Just be careful, there are lots of abused examples out there

Sounds like there was just too much wrong with that one. Good luck in your search, Jonathan

[THE BIG DOG]

JR said:

THE BIG DOG said:

Reason being rear arms need replacing, air ... a small oil leak at the front of the engine.

Can I ask why the rear arms needed to be replaced? As for the oil leek I think that this is likely to be the pipes to the oil cooler which usually also involves buying a new oil cooler

V6Alfisti said:

....if you do buy one, buy the lowest mileage car with the greatest amount of work done.

On the GTV V6 check for:-

Cambelt changed (every 5 years or 72k whichever comes first)£500-750
Oil Cooler and associated pipes replaced (£200-300)
Clutch Slip £500-700
Key Code not going out
Red/brown master key (over a thousand for a new key from what i've heard)
Rear Bushes (these are rose jointed on the V6 and less prone to wear)
Air Flow Meter £150 ish

Just be careful, there are lots of abused examples out there

Sounds like there was just too much wrong with that one. Good luck in your search, Jonathan

I took a mate who is the brains when it comes to cars and it creeked an awful lot from the rear drives side. He looked under while I was giving it a little bounce and said it needed doing.
I don't expect a PERFECT car but the paint job alone was enough to put me off before even looking at the rest of the car. Real shame as I had high hopes.

[JR]

THE BIG DOG said:

I took a mate who is the brains when it comes to cars and it creeked an awful lot from the rear drives side. He looked under while I was giving it a little bounce and said it needed doing.
I don't expect a PERFECT car but the paint job alone was enough to put me off before even looking at the rest of the car. Real shame as I had high hopes.

Rear arms are generally replaced because of severe corrosion, being bent (accident damage) or needing new bushes. In this case it sounds like it just needed poly bushes.
If I viewed a car as you have described I would have come to the same conclusion.

[jamieboy]

JR said:

If I viewed a car as you have described I would have come to the same conclusion.

Me too, I think - none of the problems sound like a show-stopper on their own but all of them together, and a vendor who won't move on price...

The GTV isn't an especially rare car, another one will come up.