This can't be right...can it?!?
This can't be right...can it?!?
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Epic Winning

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107 posts

179 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2598525.htm

Also on AT for less! - £3,495...

Must have close to 200k miles surely. There are exact same spec with 40k miles going for close £9k! Where's the £5k difference?

I'm scared to contact them to find out...

Bloody smart looking car though.

Alex

9,978 posts

306 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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If you look at the dealer's website, every car in their stock is £3,495. Definitely not right.

johnvthe2nd

1,292 posts

219 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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someone's messed up a database update!

crostonian

2,427 posts

194 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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We had our Auto Trader website hacked into over the weekend with all the prices changed so I suspect something similar has happened here.

Epic Winning

Original Poster:

107 posts

179 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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crostonian said:
We had our Auto Trader website hacked into over the weekend with all the prices changed so I suspect something similar has happened here.
confused What benefit does that give to anyone doing that? or is it just a case of cyber-vandalism?

crostonian

2,427 posts

194 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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They re-priced all the cars so that they were temptingly low but not stupidly so, changed the mobile number and contact e-mail address on the ad (although the originals were still visible if you visited our main website) and then awaited phone calls from greedy people who were tempted to part with a £500 deposit via credit/debit card. Our salesman had over 200 phone calls on Saturday evening as people were also calling our landline, he was amazed how much convincing people took to realise it was a scam. If the scammers take just a couple of £500 deposits then it's not bad work. We rang one of the numbers and surprise surprise there was an African sounding gent on the end of the line.

They got in the site by sending us an e-mail purporting to be from Auto Trader which our secretary opened, she didn't open any links but apparently they can hack in if our Auto Trader Dealer Portal is open at the same time as the e-mail is opened. Way above my head but apparently a lot of this is going on at the minute. The old saying rings true that if something is too cheap then there is always a reason!

James Dean

1,373 posts

187 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Epic Winning said:
confused What benefit does that give to anyone doing that? or is it just a case of cyber-vandalism?
Really bad none the less, but nothing compared to those who program viruses to spread child pornography, that's just sick.

crostonian

2,427 posts

194 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Bloody hell where did that come from!

James Dean

1,373 posts

187 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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crostonian said:
Bloody hell where did that come from!
Sorry, just something that crossed my mind thinking about hacking.

Emeye

9,780 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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If this is aimed at Autotrader, how did they hack into their Pistonhead classified account too? confused

Maybe something the PH team should be made aware off as PH could be a target too.!

Edited by Emeye on Monday 21st March 17:49

Stuey145

274 posts

180 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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crostonian said:
They re-priced all the cars so that they were temptingly low but not stupidly so, changed the mobile number and contact e-mail address on the ad (although the originals were still visible if you visited our main website) and then awaited phone calls from greedy people who were tempted to part with a £500 deposit via credit/debit card. Our salesman had over 200 phone calls on Saturday evening as people were also calling our landline, he was amazed how much convincing people took to realise it was a scam. If the scammers take just a couple of £500 deposits then it's not bad work. We rang one of the numbers and surprise surprise there was an African sounding gent on the end of the line.

They got in the site by sending us an e-mail purporting to be from Auto Trader which our secretary opened, she didn't open any links but apparently they can hack in if our Auto Trader Dealer Portal is open at the same time as the e-mail is opened. Way above my head but apparently a lot of this is going on at the minute. The old saying rings true that if something is too cheap then there is always a reason!
Blimey. Genuinely amazed.

4sure

2,438 posts

233 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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wow..thats a new one and very frightening yikes

crostonian

2,427 posts

194 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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We are still getting calls from people a week later who saw the low priced ads and I presume printed them off now asking why the price of the cars have gone up so much (to their original price) and saying that we have contravened advertising laws! Needless to say they have been swiftly told where to go but just can't believe how naive and stupid some people are, no wonder the scammers keep persevering they must be earning a few quid! I believe if you fall for something this obvious then you deserve all you get!

robsco

7,875 posts

198 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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crostonian said:
We are still getting calls from people a week later who saw the low priced ads and I presume printed them off now asking why the price of the cars have gone up so much (to their original price) and saying that we have contravened advertising laws! Needless to say they have been swiftly told where to go but just can't believe how naive and stupid some people are, no wonder the scammers keep persevering they must be earning a few quid! I believe if you fall for something this obvious then you deserve all you get!
Unbelievable. There are some idiots in this world.


Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

277 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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crostonian said:
We are still getting calls from people a week later who saw the low priced ads and I presume printed them off now asking why the price of the cars have gone up so much (to their original price)
The Alfa GT in the OP's post is still being advertised for £3495 on the sellers webiste and on Autotrader. Seems very suspicious they haven't they fixed it 5 days later if it was hacked, and doesn't explain the price being the same on other sites either.

crostonian

2,427 posts

194 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Just had a look at this and it appears to be a genuine ad. I notice that the mileage isn't mentioned so perhaps it has done 150+, we recently sold an 04 plate GT 3.2 with 99k on for just over £5k.

Emeye

9,780 posts

245 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Why would you be interested in that GT when they have a lovely FIAT Stilo diesel for the same money?