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Fellow PHers,
My son (12yrs old) wants a gaming PC. I was thinking it would be a good idea to get it in component form and have him build it, install the OS and get it up and running, all as an educational exercise.
This is not a bottomless pit of money exercise. He has realistic expectations of what value of Christmas present to expect.
So, can it be done for £500 and if so how?
My son (12yrs old) wants a gaming PC. I was thinking it would be a good idea to get it in component form and have him build it, install the OS and get it up and running, all as an educational exercise.
This is not a bottomless pit of money exercise. He has realistic expectations of what value of Christmas present to expect.
So, can it be done for £500 and if so how?
Starting from scratch. Monitor, keyboard and mouse would be extras. 1080p on Fortnight would be a good start.
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Edited by stevesingo on Monday 3rd December 22:36
Makes a bit easier if the accessories are on top if that budget e.g
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/cJWG3C/entry-lev...
Have a gander on there at other "builds" and you should find something suitable. I'm not aware of Fortnite being hugely intensive but you can usually check performance by just googling the graphics card and game name together to get things like https://www.fpsbenchmark.com/fortnite/rx-570
60fps is more than enough.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/cJWG3C/entry-lev...
Have a gander on there at other "builds" and you should find something suitable. I'm not aware of Fortnite being hugely intensive but you can usually check performance by just googling the graphics card and game name together to get things like https://www.fpsbenchmark.com/fortnite/rx-570
60fps is more than enough.
GrumpyTwig said:
Makes a bit easier if the accessories are on top if that budget e.g
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/cJWG3C/entry-lev...
Have a gander on there at other "builds" and you should find something suitable. I'm not aware of Fortnite being hugely intensive but you can usually check performance by just googling the graphics card and game name together to get things like https://www.fpsbenchmark.com/fortnite/rx-570
60fps is more than enough.
Those two sites are great. Thanks.https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/cJWG3C/entry-lev...
Have a gander on there at other "builds" and you should find something suitable. I'm not aware of Fortnite being hugely intensive but you can usually check performance by just googling the graphics card and game name together to get things like https://www.fpsbenchmark.com/fortnite/rx-570
60fps is more than enough.
I bought this - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/scan-gamer-intel-c...
Been fine for like 6 months. At the time retail was a bit less and I know through a friend one of the managers at Scan so I got a bit of a discount, but wasn't much.
gets me a solid 80-100fps in PUBG at max everything at 1080.
I find gaming in 4k a bit of a gimmick as MOST games certainly until 18 months ago were not fully optimized for 4k sure they supported the res but textures weren't all that, so was a bit pointless.
EG CSGO you'd be miles better at 1080p running at 240fps rather than 160 at 4k, it's an ugly game at best anyway! :-)
Been fine for like 6 months. At the time retail was a bit less and I know through a friend one of the managers at Scan so I got a bit of a discount, but wasn't much.
gets me a solid 80-100fps in PUBG at max everything at 1080.
I find gaming in 4k a bit of a gimmick as MOST games certainly until 18 months ago were not fully optimized for 4k sure they supported the res but textures weren't all that, so was a bit pointless.
EG CSGO you'd be miles better at 1080p running at 240fps rather than 160 at 4k, it's an ugly game at best anyway! :-)
Quite a tight budget. I’ve read your posts as the 500 pounds being only for the PC and that the monitor, keyboard, mouse and operating system are extras.
Here is my quickly thrown together suggestion - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zKKqgw
Here is my quickly thrown together suggestion - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zKKqgw
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Quite a tight budget. I’ve read your posts as the 500 pounds being only for the PC and that the monitor, keyboard, mouse and operating system are extras.
Here is my quickly thrown together suggestion - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zKKqgw
What is the advantages over the one posted above?Here is my quickly thrown together suggestion - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zKKqgw
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/cJWG3C/entry-lev...
stevesingo said:
What is the advantages over the one posted above?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/cJWG3C/entry-lev...
It is really just the processor, my suggestion has a better one (Ryzen 5 over Ryzen 3). It is worth noting that the case in the other suggestion is not available in the UK so the price isn't correct, you'll still need a case.https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/cJWG3C/entry-lev...
RedWhiteMonkey said:
It is really just the processor, my suggestion has a better one (Ryzen 5 over Ryzen 3). It is worth noting that the case in the other suggestion is not available in the UK so the price isn't correct, you'll still need a case.
Definitely a decent build. Ram speeds are very important with current Ryzen though so expect more fps with higher speeds/lower latency. However ram is also very expensive so its a trade-off really.Good thing about the build is that the cpu can be updated from ryzen1 to ryzen2 or 3...maybe even 4 in the future.
MintyScot said:
RedWhiteMonkey said:
It is really just the processor, my suggestion has a better one (Ryzen 5 over Ryzen 3). It is worth noting that the case in the other suggestion is not available in the UK so the price isn't correct, you'll still need a case.
Definitely a decent build. Ram speeds are very important with current Ryzen though so expect more fps with higher speeds/lower latency. However ram is also very expensive so its a trade-off really.Good thing about the build is that the cpu can be updated from ryzen1 to ryzen2 or 3...maybe even 4 in the future.
I've just purchased this as specced asided from I treated him to 2666MHz RAM.
Just need to work out how to put it together now. Any tips?
stevesingo said:
Well,
I've just purchased this as specced asided from I treated him to 2666MHz RAM.
Just need to work out how to put it together now. Any tips?
Slowly. Take your time, and it’ll only go together one way. I've just purchased this as specced asided from I treated him to 2666MHz RAM.
Just need to work out how to put it together now. Any tips?
Do make sure you’re not statically charged but other than that, there’s not a lot that can wrong.
great father son stuff to be doing.
especially seeing as its too cold for faffing about with cars atm .
get him involved let him do the building. with a fatherly oversight.
as said plenty videos online that will assist in building your pc up, might even be worth signing up for a dedicated pc forum like www.overclockers.co.uk as well.
especially seeing as its too cold for faffing about with cars atm .
get him involved let him do the building. with a fatherly oversight.
as said plenty videos online that will assist in building your pc up, might even be worth signing up for a dedicated pc forum like www.overclockers.co.uk as well.
Second taking your time.
Plan out the order you need to install things and where both the components and cables can go. Sometimes it's easier to install the RAM, cpu and heatsink before you put the motherboard in for example (sometimes it's required).
You can always do a minimal assembly using the cpu, psu and memory using the anti static bag as a base just to test the minimal components work first. There's nothing worse than getting everything together in the box only to find it won't turn on or doesn't work.
It's mostly just Lego, only things that I can think of that aren't standardised are the front IO panel connectors, but you still can't really go wrong with those they're just a bit fiddly.
Have fun.
Plan out the order you need to install things and where both the components and cables can go. Sometimes it's easier to install the RAM, cpu and heatsink before you put the motherboard in for example (sometimes it's required).
You can always do a minimal assembly using the cpu, psu and memory using the anti static bag as a base just to test the minimal components work first. There's nothing worse than getting everything together in the box only to find it won't turn on or doesn't work.
It's mostly just Lego, only things that I can think of that aren't standardised are the front IO panel connectors, but you still can't really go wrong with those they're just a bit fiddly.
Have fun.
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