Ultra rare mk 1 Escort at upcoming auction
Ultra rare mk 1 Escort at upcoming auction
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I-am-the-reverend

1,531 posts

59 months

Thursday 18th December 2025
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Yes! Carnival red! Almost identical to Vista iirc.

aeropilot

39,779 posts

251 months

Thursday 18th December 2025
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I-am-the-reverend said:
Yes! Carnival red! Almost identical to Vista iirc.
It depends on the lighting conditions.

Vista is much brighter and more orange than Carnival Red to most people's eyes, Carnival Red is quite similar to Sebring Red, which many people consider a dark orange in reality rather than red.

Vista is much closer in shade to Signal Orange 76 than it is to Carnival Red.

Edited by aeropilot on Thursday 18th December 11:09

I-am-the-reverend

1,531 posts

59 months

Thursday 18th December 2025
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It's been 45 years...........

I'm wondering if my old brain is fuddled. I remember the Sport as being much darker and muddier than Signal orange yet much more orange than Venetian red.

aeropilot

39,779 posts

251 months

Thursday 18th December 2025
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I-am-the-reverend said:
It's been 45 years...........

I'm wondering if my old brain is fuddled. I remember the Sport as being much darker and muddier than Signal orange yet much more orange than Venetian red.
Venetian Red is a much darker Red, and was the red that replaced Carnival Red from Jan 76 through to end of production in July 80.

This is Venetian Red.



This is Carnival Red.



This is Signal Orange 76



This is Vista Orange


I-am-the-reverend

1,531 posts

59 months

Thursday 18th December 2025
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I'm 99% sure it was Vista - the body/paint plate.

fttm

4,371 posts

159 months

Thursday 18th December 2025
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That ^ Vista MK1 is identical to one of my old ones , P reg . Ride was a tad harsh due to Gp1 Bilsteins I fitted . Live and learn , swapped it for a 3ltr Capri to stop the girlfriend complaining , swapped her in due course too !!

nismo48

6,361 posts

231 months

Saturday 20th December 2025
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rallycross said:
Shezbo said:
Dreamer!

I really never really 'got' the Harrier thing. Sport, Mexico and RS models, of course, however, the Harrier is just like a run out model with stripes and other bits thrown at it. No way is a Harrier worth more than a Mexico?
At the time they were new they were just a 1600 sport with nicer seats, wheels and a very nice colour scheme absolutely not a special car in anyway then or now.
Agreed, but punters will pay over the odds regardless

WPA

13,779 posts

138 months

Steve-B

929 posts

306 months

Saturday 27th December 2025
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WPA said:
With this example punters may have to sell their homes to purchase it!

TrevorHill

671 posts

15 months

Saturday 27th December 2025
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I don’t care how nice it is. That’s utter madness.

aeropilot

39,779 posts

251 months

Saturday 27th December 2025
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TrevorHill said:
I don t care how nice it is. That s utter madness.
Its still 60k and 30k less than the other two in similar condition that sold at auction this year......so a bargain really winklaugh

I-am-the-reverend

1,531 posts

59 months

Wednesday 7th January
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https://www.facebook.com/share/r/17kwie7hS5/?mibex...



Edited by I-am-the-reverend on Wednesday 7th January 17:47

aeropilot

39,779 posts

251 months

Friday 9th January
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Legacywr said:
Superficially looks a nice car, will be interesting to see what it sells for, or gets bid up to.

Those horrid numbers need throwing in the bin though, looks so wrong. Wood dash/console are likely non-original as the gauge panel has exposed screws.

vpr

3,908 posts

262 months

Friday 9th January
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aeropilot said:
Superficially looks a nice car, will be interesting to see what it sells for, or gets bid up to.

Those horrid numbers need throwing in the bin though, looks so wrong. Wood dash/console are likely non-original as the gauge panel has exposed screws.
Yet again…why do sooooo many Ford bobble hats try so hard to get stuff right then wreck the whole car by placing this stupid plates on.???

aeropilot

39,779 posts

251 months

Friday 9th January
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vpr said:
aeropilot said:
Superficially looks a nice car, will be interesting to see what it sells for, or gets bid up to.

Those horrid numbers need throwing in the bin though, looks so wrong. Wood dash/console are likely non-original as the gauge panel has exposed screws.
Yet again why do sooooo many Ford bobble hats try so hard to get stuff right then wreck the whole car by placing this stupid plates on.???
No idea, baffles me as well.

Car would have looked nicer with the triple pin stripes instead of the decals, but I understand why people want to fit them, and I'd be OK with them if the repro's were the proper shade of blue, but it seems no one cares about that. Was talking to Phil Elby, about it last year, as its a pet hate of his as well, and he said he talked to guy who makes the ones that sell the most and they he had no clue that were all so wrong, largely I think because there are no original cars left, and not many people around that can remember what the originals were like to know how wrong the repro's are.

I-am-the-reverend

1,531 posts

59 months

Friday 9th January
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The now much loved wood trim. Back in the day, it was viewed with suspicion. The sort of screwed on tat that 1300E owners would like.

Yuk.

They'd be of more use with a cup of four star and a match or, a couple of weeks ago, as a yuletide log. Absolutely vile.

It's probably viewed as sexist now (but I don't care) but 1300E's were regarded as hairdresser chariots. They were certainly not treated with the reverence of the Cortina 1600E.

No other E was either though. The 2000E Coarshair was a dreadful Transit powered gearbox donor and the 2000E Mark 3 was a plush pimp's wheels.

I await the slings and arrows.

Silver on black plates: yeah, how to ruin a '70's car. In the 70's the first thing you did was to bin them in favour of some reflective jobs. Sixties stuff was instantly lifted out of the miserable era of coal with some nice new Bluemels or Hills reflective plates.

Edited by I-am-the-reverend on Friday 9th January 16:01

2172cc

1,717 posts

121 months

Friday 9th January
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I-am-the-reverend said:
The now much loved wood trim. Back in the day, it was viewed with suspicion. The sort of screwed on tat that 1300E owners would like.

Yuk.

They'd be of more use with a cup of four star and a match or, a couple of weeks ago, as a yuletide log. Absolutely vile.

It's probably viewed as sexist now (but I don't care) but 1300E's were regarded as hairdresser chariots. They were certainly not treated with the reverence of the Cortina 1600E.

No other E was either though. The 2000E Coarshair was a dreadful Transit powered gearbox donor and the 2000E Mark 3 was a plush pimp's wheels.

I await the slings and arrows.

Silver on black plates: yeah, how to ruin a '70's car. In the 70's the first thing you did was to bin them in favour of some reflective jobs. Sixties stuff was instantly lifted out of the miserable era of coal with some nice new Bluemels or Hills reflective plates.

Edited by I-am-the-reverend on Friday 9th January 16:01
Can't disagree with any of that.
Like most of us old gits, the black plate thing smacks of trying too hard to enforce the classic look and just doesn't do it for me. I did though, get a set of pressed ally Serck Marston white /yellow plates made up with a slightly different font for my RS2000 and then my XR2. They were all the rage with my mates at that time in the 80's but took them off when the cars were sold and still have them in my garage.



Little Pete

1,841 posts

118 months

Wednesday 4th March
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https://bit.ly/40douKK
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 1600GT.

Edited by Little Pete on Wednesday 4th March 20:22

aeropilot

39,779 posts

251 months

Wednesday 4th March
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Little Pete said:
https://bit.ly/40douKK
I don t think I ve ever seen a 1600GT.

Edited by Little Pete on Wednesday 4th March 20:22
Sheez, these people come out with some utter BS to try and sell st.

Ex-works RS1600 prototype my arse laugh

No photo's of the VIN or build plates in the ad, so that starts the spidey senses tingling.

It could have been a Ford management 'special order' car, there were some interesting spec cars that could be and were ordered by certain people with enough clout in the company. VIN or build plate should give a clue, if its not faked to match the sales story.
Could be a conversion by aftermarket tuner like Superspeed. There were 3 or 4 offering 1600GT's before AVO created the Mexico.
This car was nothing to do with AVO (which was still being setup when this rolled off the production line) or Boreham.