Evil 6'6" width restrictions
Evil 6'6" width restrictions
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Zod

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35,295 posts

288 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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The last decade has seen an infestation of these things strangle London. Their construction varies from the relatively benign ones, just a few feet long with low kerbs to the fiendish creations of the diseased, car-hating, twisted minds of the employees of Camden, Islington and Haringey Councils, which feature 3 foot high solid iron posts at entrance and exit and often in between, high kerbs and at worst extreme length and even curves and varying width.

None of this would be quite so evil were it not for the fact that 6'6", 78" is just too narrow for modern cars. It is narrower than a full-fat Range Rover (80") or an X5 (78.5") and just 4 inches wider than a Jag XF or a DB9, leaving two inches at max to play with on either side - fine for a short, straight restriction, but much more difficult on the examples I'll display below. Even a Golf is 70" wide. North London has a very high population of very big cars.

Before the PH "if you were as good a driver as me, you wouldn't worry about them" mob comes along, I'll note that I've never yet kerbed a wheel on one of these (I save that for times when I'm parking up nonchalantly and not paying sufficient attention).



Agar Grove, Camden. This one is a bd to turn right into. It's the angle of the entry, combined with the post, the kerbs and the curve within the kerbs.




Burghley Road, Tufnell Park. This one has the posts, nasty kerbs and is quite long and you will inevitably have a queue of horn-beeping white van drivers behind you if you are ever rash enough to take it.




Grafton Road, Camden. This one is just very long. A pain in the arse.




Jackson's Lane, Highgate. The kerbs are low, but it's those evil posts, combined with the length, narrowing and two slight curves that make it the place in North London where most cars are damaged (with the possible exception of the car park at Waitrose John Barnes on the Finchley Road). Down at the bottom end is a mini scrapyard's worth of door trims, wheel trims and mirror housings. It's on the school run and collects new victims every day.

Edited by Zod on Monday 9th May 11:13

Garlick

40,601 posts

270 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Blimey,, I doubt I'd get the LS through there without creeping through, let alone a Rangie. Not pleasant.

You're right though, someone will shortly tell us how they get an artic through there at 50mph, or that we shouldn't have such big cars anyway....

smile

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

187 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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You're a solicitor apparently. Check if they are legal and sue them if they're not. smile

james_tigerwoods

16,347 posts

227 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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What is the legal position of this - a public highway made un-travellable (made up word) by this sort of thing...

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Times like this where I feel a bit smug... hehe
But that is ever so slightly ridiculous, they're trying to tempt everyone into driving a G-Wizthing.

EDLT

15,421 posts

236 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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So how do fire engines get around them?

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

294 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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EDLT said:
So how do fire engines get around them?
I was just wondering that. If there is a route around that the fire engines take, then surely use that?

I can see the point (albiet not as mentally thin) of stopping rat runs through residential areas but they are a bit mental.

Disco You

3,749 posts

210 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Could one not get around the issue in the first scene you posted by mounting the kerb?

Zod

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35,295 posts

288 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Disco You said:
Could one not get around the issue in the first scene you posted by mounting the kerb?
That is what people do. Lots of schoolchildren on that corner though and Camden's CCTV Smart Cars love to hang around to catch people doing that.

Zod

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35,295 posts

288 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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neil_bolton said:
I was just wondering that. If there is a route around that the fire engines take, then surely use that?

I can see the point (albiet not as mentally thin) of stopping rat runs through residential areas but they are a bit mental.
Look at the Grafton Road one - it has a gate for fire engines. For the rest of them, fire engines do what the rest of us do, avoid them, but fire engines can ignore one way streets unlike the rest of us, so they have more options.

GravelBen

16,515 posts

260 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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1) Buy the cheapest old dunger of a wide car you can find
2) Wedge it firmly into said space at rush hour
3) Lock it and walk the rest of the way

seeby

1,807 posts

200 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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My work van is a Fiat Scudo, and I would challenge anyone to get it through the first gap (agar road ) without mounting the kerb or scuffing the wheel trim. To save the latter I always mount the kerb !!

OdramaSwimLaden

1,971 posts

199 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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GravelBen said:
1) Buy the cheapest old dunger of a wide car you can find
2) Wedge it firmly into said space at rush hour
3) Lock it and walk the rest of the way
Hammersmith Bridge width restrictions. 1998. Lamborghini Diablo.....not me!

Guvernator

14,468 posts

195 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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This kind of behaviour really gets my goat. Why restrict a perfectly good road with this crap? What with these, unnecessarily wide islands usually placed right next to a bus stop, roads which are restricted so you have to give priority to oncoming traffic, pavements widened, cycle paths etc which make an already narrow road narrower.

It's almost as if they councils are restricting the roads on purpose to try to cause as much traffic as possible. What is their end goal, to piss people of so much that they just stop using cars altogther? What is this hate against the motor car which has sprung up in the last 5 years? As a keen motorist I really can't understand why government would want to restrict peoples freedom of movement on purpose, just exactly what is the motive here?

Gun

13,432 posts

248 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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I hate things like this but sadly they're only going to get more common and spread to other town and cities.

EDLT

15,421 posts

236 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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The Crack Fox said:
I hear Central London has an underground train system, lots of buses, and taxis, meaning you don't have to take your car down these hateful looking streets...
I hear that there habitable land outside of London. Meaning you don't have to visit that hateful city at all!

Garlick

40,601 posts

270 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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The Crack Fox said:
I hear Central London has an underground train system, lots of buses, and taxis, meaning you don't have to take your car down these hateful looking streets...
I realise that this may have been posted to prompt a reaction (unlike you I know) but as motorists, we shouldn't be forced to choose.

Central London maybe, but there is a lot of London where the public network isn't a necessary option.

Laurel Green

31,145 posts

262 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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The Jackson Lane restriction has been there at least forty years, though extra posts were put in at a later date. I remember when the old Bedford CF twin-wheeled vans first came out, a driver of such, trying to drive through at a fair old lick, took the rear axle right off. Took some time trying to extricate the van from the restrictors teeth.

sjg

7,680 posts

295 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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I'm finding it very hard to have sympathy for owners of enormous vehicles in cities who have to take a slightly less convenient route to avoid damaging their 22" Kahn rims.

jbi

12,700 posts

234 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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