Play in rack
Play in rack
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Hoover.

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5,993 posts

271 months

Wednesday 11th May 2011
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Just got my car through the MOT, but got an advisory on steering play..... is this something that can be adjusted, issue with track ends, bearings or a refurb of the rack....... ?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 11th May 2011
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Kiley Clinton, accept no other biggrin

haircutmike

22,464 posts

233 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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BliarOut said:
Kiley Clinton, accept no other biggrin
You have such faith in them!

They can do all repairs, (if it's a P/S rack) but not if there is play in the rack bar or pinion, there are no parts available yet.

Have it checked, my P/S rack had an advisery on play in the track rod ball joint, (on the rack itself) this week.
I have just replaced the arm and ball joint as I have 2 spare racks, (with play in the rack bar and pinion)) in the garage!

Hoover.

Original Poster:

5,993 posts

271 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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Non of that PAS on mine.... it's a grown ups car lol

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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haircutmike said:
BliarOut said:
Kiley Clinton, accept no other biggrin
You have such faith in them!

They can do all repairs, (if it's a P/S rack) but not if there is play in the rack bar or pinion, there are no parts available yet.

Have it checked, my P/S rack had an advisery on play in the track rod ball joint, (on the rack itself) this week.
I have just replaced the arm and ball joint as I have 2 spare racks, (with play in the rack bar and pinion)) in the garage!
Just want others to avoid some of the people who worked on mine first.

Don't Titan have rack bars?

haircutmike

22,464 posts

233 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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BliarOut said:
Just want others to avoid some of the people who worked on mine first.

Don't Titan have rack bars?
Quite right!

If Titan do, (and I would be surprised), I can get my other 2 repaired bounce, but that's a big if.

I will try them later.


Just had a quick search, have you a number for Titan?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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Afraid not. A google of Titan motorsport st Neots should find them ( on the iPhone ATM).

I know they have rackstock of varying lengths and pitches as they make racks to spec to order.

Prices seemed ok when I looked into it, they just didn't do hydraulic PAS.

haircutmike

22,464 posts

233 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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Quinny said:
Ash's car had a very slight bit of play in the rack a couple of years back... (drivers side only). Managed to get a good second hand one....

But on inspecting the old one, it turned out to be where the track rod end fitted into the cup on the rack.... Could see it easily when the rubber boot was removed....

I was told that this was a straight forward, simple repair... So if it's something like that, should be easy enough..smile
That's what I had an advisory on a couple of days ago, swapped it for a good un from one of my spare racks last night!

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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http://www.titan.uk.net/steering.php

(0) 1480 474402

Might be useful as spares become harder to find.

haircutmike

22,464 posts

233 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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Cheers bigears.

LordGrover

34,162 posts

241 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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I don't know what they did, but Dulfords de-sloppified my steering a year or two ago.
See... I'm useful as ever. rolleyes

LordGrover

34,162 posts

241 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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scratchchin
idea
yes


hehe

rigga

8,806 posts

230 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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Or greased them..... mine had slight play on the n/s,tracked it down to the rack,thought bugger ! greased the thing and the play was gone,wonder how many times that gets missed on the service ? 3 grease nipples by the way,one each end by the rack boot,and one on the pinion..... try it and see

chap

26 posts

196 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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steering play ?

Check (mean shake this part and see if there is some play, if yes, rescrew the part or change it)
- LH and RH steering rack support (may be it's the all rack that has some play)
- LH and RH ball joints
- LH and RH ball joints at the level of the steering rack (under the gaiter)
- The 2 Universal Joints in right wheel arch
- steering wheel ball bearing which support the steering column in the wall


If none of these elements seem to be out of order, then it can be the steering rack pinion that has a little play. I can't remember if it can be adjustable (it is on a caterham for example). Have it reconditionned at a specialist if necessary.

Think about adding regularly some grease through the nipples so that things do not wear too quickly.

Regards

biper

2,097 posts

246 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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Got an advise on my rack at last MOT. Put in new tie rods and all play gone. Tie rods are MK4 Escort on a manual rack.
Barrie

chap

26 posts

196 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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rigga said:
Or greased them..... mine had slight play on the n/s,tracked it down to the rack,thought bugger ! greased the thing and the play was gone,wonder how many times that gets missed on the service ? 3 grease nipples by the way,one each end by the rack boot,and one on the pinion..... try it and see
never seen the one on the pinion. I knew only the LH and RH grease nipple. Do you have a picture of the nipple on the pinion ?

rigga

8,806 posts

230 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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Underneath as i recall,on the pinion box part of the rack where the steering shaft joins.

haircutmike

22,464 posts

233 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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To recap

P/S rack has no nipples.

Rack bar and pinions are not available.

Tie bars may be different.

Generally, if there is play in the rack itself, it's scrap at the mo!

Hoover.

Original Poster:

5,993 posts

271 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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haircutmike said:
To recap


Generally, if there is play in the rack itself, it's scrap at the mo!
I'd best hope it's the track rod end then.

carsy

3,019 posts

194 months

Thursday 12th May 2011
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My 1992 pre cat doesnt have grease nipples either.