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Right chaps,
It's a what car but it's not for me! Lass I know is wanting me to assist her in purchasing a 4x4 as I'm more mechanically minded than she is...
However I've not a dixy about 4x4s so suggestions are welcome before I start doing the obligatory research into their various foibles...
Criteria is:
Cheers.
ETA: Current vehicle is ~'93 Pajero 2.8 TD (with custom ratios which seem to fudge the MPG).
It's a what car but it's not for me! Lass I know is wanting me to assist her in purchasing a 4x4 as I'm more mechanically minded than she is...
However I've not a dixy about 4x4s so suggestions are welcome before I start doing the obligatory research into their various foibles...
Criteria is:
- Must be capable of towing a horse box (no idea how much these way but presumably a lot).
- Must be capable of genuine 4x4 activities as she will drive it through fields to feed the horses and will be used in winter where we can get a couple of feet of snow.
- Must have (relatively) reasonable MPG.
- Must be reasonably tough as she's not got anybody to reliably spanner for her outside of warranty.
- Must cost £7000-£8000 from a dealer.
- Will be used daily for trips to work and back (some 5-10 miles of country lanes).
- ~10 years old max.
Cheers.
ETA: Current vehicle is ~'93 Pajero 2.8 TD (with custom ratios which seem to fudge the MPG).
Edited by Prof Prolapse on Wednesday 18th May 15:17
Edited by Prof Prolapse on Wednesday 18th May 16:01
Prof Prolapse said:
Right chaps,
It's a what car but it's not for me! Lass I know is wanting me to assist her in purchasing a 4x4 as I'm more mechanically minded than she is...
However I've not a dixy about 4x4s so suggestions are welcome before I start doing the obligatory research into their various foibles...
Criteria is:
Cheers.
ETA: Current vehicle is ~'93 Pajero 2.8 TD (with custom ratios which seem to fudge the MPG).
You'll get more Disco for your money. But any of the LR offerings are capable and good.It's a what car but it's not for me! Lass I know is wanting me to assist her in purchasing a 4x4 as I'm more mechanically minded than she is...
However I've not a dixy about 4x4s so suggestions are welcome before I start doing the obligatory research into their various foibles...
Criteria is:
- Must be capable of towing a horse box (no idea how much these way but presumably a lot).
- Must be capable of genuine 4x4 activities as she will drive it through fields to feed the horses and will be used in winter where we can get a couple of feet of snow.
- Must have (relatively) reasonable MPG.
- Must be reasonably tough as she's not got anybody to reliably spanner for her outside of warranty.
- Must cost £7000-£8000 from a dealer.
- Will be used daily for trips to work and back (some 5-10 miles of country lanes).
Cheers.
ETA: Current vehicle is ~'93 Pajero 2.8 TD (with custom ratios which seem to fudge the MPG).
Edited by Prof Prolapse on Wednesday 18th May 15:17
Also checkout some of the Jeeps, probably Grand Cherokee's or the newer shape Liberty/Cherokee.
I quite like Ford Mavericks too, not speedy but more capable than their looks might suggest.
Isuzu's, Shoguns, Landcruisers all capable too.
doogz said:
You need to find out what sort of trailer she has/will be towing.
If it's a 2 horse Ifor Williams or similar, she'll need something that can tow 2.7/2.8T ish, which will rule out Vitara's, and a bunch of other things.
Big Nissan's (not X-trail)
Shoguns
Landcruisers
Disco's
Defenders
Are the ones that come to mind.
Things like X-trails, Vitara's, Freelander's (old one, new one is decent, and can tow, but out of budget) can't pull anything that big.
One of the girls on our yard got some big Kia thing just before Christmas. I've only driven it once, but i was surprised at how well it drove, how quick it was, and how much it'd tow. Her trailer has been re-plated down to 2T, from when she had an X-trail, meaning she can only take one horse out, i'm not sure what the max towing capacity of her Kia is, but might be worth a look.
She's after a two horse box mate. Not bought one yet.If it's a 2 horse Ifor Williams or similar, she'll need something that can tow 2.7/2.8T ish, which will rule out Vitara's, and a bunch of other things.
Big Nissan's (not X-trail)
Shoguns
Landcruisers
Disco's
Defenders
Are the ones that come to mind.
Things like X-trails, Vitara's, Freelander's (old one, new one is decent, and can tow, but out of budget) can't pull anything that big.
One of the girls on our yard got some big Kia thing just before Christmas. I've only driven it once, but i was surprised at how well it drove, how quick it was, and how much it'd tow. Her trailer has been re-plated down to 2T, from when she had an X-trail, meaning she can only take one horse out, i'm not sure what the max towing capacity of her Kia is, but might be worth a look.
Shogun seems a good choice. They seem relatively popular in the horsey community.
Comes nicely in budget as well.
PSBuckshot said:
Prof Prolapse said:
PSBuckshot said:
How about an Evo or Scooby?
Yeah those are wicked at towing their own kerbweight in horses. 
that will be waaaaay over the towing limit for the cars in question300bhp/ton said:
You'll get more Disco for your money. But any of the LR offerings are capable and good.
Also checkout some of the Jeeps, probably Grand Cherokee's or the newer shape Liberty/Cherokee.
I quite like Ford Mavericks too, not speedy but more capable than their looks might suggest.
Isuzu's, Shoguns, Landcruisers all capable too.
This is based purely on ignorance... But when you recommend Land Rovers and Jeeps alarm bells ring in the reliability stakes. Especially compared to things like the Shogun!Also checkout some of the Jeeps, probably Grand Cherokee's or the newer shape Liberty/Cherokee.
I quite like Ford Mavericks too, not speedy but more capable than their looks might suggest.
Isuzu's, Shoguns, Landcruisers all capable too.
Prof Prolapse said:
This is based purely on ignorance... But when you recommend Land Rovers and Jeeps alarm bells ring in the reliability stakes. Especially compared to things like the Shogun!
Can't really comment on the Shogun, but I've not seen or had any real issues with Land Rover's or Jeeps (got one of each at the mo).Land Rover's like a bit of TLC, rather old school in their design. But they are fairly solid lumps and will normally get you home. They suffer lots of silly niggles, things that never seem to be 100%. But it's not anything major.
Similar story with Jeeps. A well established company selling into the largest market in the World, the USA. If they were rubbish I'm sure they'd have long since gone.
maser_spyder said:
If you're also after reliability, it's Landcruiser all the way.
.The above says it really.
The green oval stuff is largly let down by reliability.
For that sort of money, a nice automatic 80 series 4,2 turbo diesel Land Cruiser is all your going to need.
Pull the biggest horse box, with the biggest horses.
Pull it round the world if you wanted.
vette
uk_vette said:
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The above says it really.
The green oval stuff is largly let down by reliability.
For that sort of money, a nice automatic 80 series 4,2 turbo diesel Land Cruiser is all your going to need.
Pull the biggest horse box, with the biggest horses.
Pull it round the world if you wanted.
vette
Not a chance for under £8000 from a dealer though.The above says it really.
The green oval stuff is largly let down by reliability.
For that sort of money, a nice automatic 80 series 4,2 turbo diesel Land Cruiser is all your going to need.
Pull the biggest horse box, with the biggest horses.
Pull it round the world if you wanted.
vette
Prof Prolapse said:
uk_vette said:
.
The above says it really.
The green oval stuff is largly let down by reliability.
For that sort of money, a nice automatic 80 series 4,2 turbo diesel Land Cruiser is all your going to need.
Pull the biggest horse box, with the biggest horses.
Pull it round the world if you wanted.
vette
Not a chance for under £8000 from a dealer though.The above says it really.
The green oval stuff is largly let down by reliability.
For that sort of money, a nice automatic 80 series 4,2 turbo diesel Land Cruiser is all your going to need.
Pull the biggest horse box, with the biggest horses.
Pull it round the world if you wanted.
vette
I paid £2500 for mine, 1998 3.4L LPG converted petrol Colorado.
Bought it as a 'non runner', gas valve stuck closed and after-market petrol pipes leaking. Total cost of repair about £25. Notice the only things not working on it were non-original....
Something with a CDL in low range that you can disengage.
With a modern Landy if you are reversing in a tight area, no probs. Stick it in low range for more control and lower speeds. With an open centre diff it won't try and bust shafts and diffs either but you'll still have AWD traction.
With a modern Landy if you are reversing in a tight area, no probs. Stick it in low range for more control and lower speeds. With an open centre diff it won't try and bust shafts and diffs either but you'll still have AWD traction.
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