Deadwood.. any fans?
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Finally got round to watching the season 1 DVD's of Deadwood I bought ages ago (anyone else do this with DVD's, books and games.. i have hundreds sat there?).. I shouldn't be surprised as HBO can do no wrong but it's an absolutely cracking show. Any other fans here? I gather they cancelled the fourth season so it finishes with some loose ends but so far I'm really enjoying it.
Ian "Lovejoy" Macshane is terrific as baddie in chief and there are some brilliant minor characters. Just whiled away an hour or so on Wikipedia reading up on the real-life characters the show is based upon..
At around £10 per season on Amazon I thoroughly recommend it.
Ian "Lovejoy" Macshane is terrific as baddie in chief and there are some brilliant minor characters. Just whiled away an hour or so on Wikipedia reading up on the real-life characters the show is based upon..
At around £10 per season on Amazon I thoroughly recommend it.
Edited by gregd on Thursday 19th May 10:30
gregd said:
Finally got round to watching the season 1 DVD's of Deadwood I bought ages ago (anyone else do this with DVD's, books and games.. i have hundreds sat there?).. I shouldn't be surprised as HBO can do no wrong but it's an absolutely cracking show. Any other fans here? I gather they cancelled the fourth season so it finishes with some loose ends but so far I'm really enjoying it.
Ian "Lovejoy" Macshane is terrific as baddie in chief and there are some brilliant minor characters. Just whiled away an hour or so on Wikipedia reading up on the real-life characters the show is based upon..
At around £10 per season on Amazon I thoroughly recommend it.
I am rewatching it on "On Demand". Absolutely top notch. The dialogue alone is a trip!Ian "Lovejoy" Macshane is terrific as baddie in chief and there are some brilliant minor characters. Just whiled away an hour or so on Wikipedia reading up on the real-life characters the show is based upon..
At around £10 per season on Amazon I thoroughly recommend it.
Edited by gregd on Thursday 19th May 10:30
Some of the best TV ever, and the fact that it only pays lipservice to the real history only spurred me onto reading up about it.
I particularly enjoyed the quick draw between Hickok and Bullock early on. Keith Carradine got the "wrist flick" bang on, given that Hickok didn't use holsters.
I did feel annoyed that they all let Hearst get away with too much - he didn't exhibit enough menace to me, for them all to be second guessing his next moves. In fact Tolliver the same - he seemed like a slightly camp showman and didn't seem to fit someone who engendered fear in others.
Perhaps it's simply because Ian McShane is British and pulls off that underlying nastiness? But it couldn't be that because Olyphant managed to make me believe in Bullock's barely-suppressed rage which, coupled with his quick draw, makes his a dangerous foe.
Love westerns in general. Loved Deadwood a lot.
I particularly enjoyed the quick draw between Hickok and Bullock early on. Keith Carradine got the "wrist flick" bang on, given that Hickok didn't use holsters.
I did feel annoyed that they all let Hearst get away with too much - he didn't exhibit enough menace to me, for them all to be second guessing his next moves. In fact Tolliver the same - he seemed like a slightly camp showman and didn't seem to fit someone who engendered fear in others.
Perhaps it's simply because Ian McShane is British and pulls off that underlying nastiness? But it couldn't be that because Olyphant managed to make me believe in Bullock's barely-suppressed rage which, coupled with his quick draw, makes his a dangerous foe.
Love westerns in general. Loved Deadwood a lot.
Halb said:
why was it cancelled?
Not sure, it made way for Entourage. I hear there's a bit of a running theme with big US TV shows. The launch on a massive but manageable budget, lots die early because they can't generate the advertising revenue to be profitable, some go Mega like Deadwood, my name is earl, Hero's etc the cast, writters, directors etc demand more and more money based on the idea the figures will continue to grow or at least stay the same costs go through the roof, figures dip or plateu and suddenly a big show is unprofitable.
We're lucky the UK TV people are a little more relaxed or shows like The Inbetweeners would die early on.
P-Jay said:
Not sure, it made way for Entourage.
I hear there's a bit of a running theme with big US TV shows. The launch on a massive but manageable budget, lots die early because they can't generate the advertising revenue to be profitable, some go Mega like Deadwood, my name is earl, Hero's etc the cast, writters, directors etc demand more and more money based on the idea the figures will continue to grow or at least stay the same costs go through the roof, figures dip or plateu and suddenly a big show is unprofitable.
We're lucky the UK TV people are a little more relaxed or shows like The Inbetweeners would die early on.
Dooes HBO have adverts? I know HBO kept The Wire on even though it wasn't successful in the early days, but they canned Carnivàle because of the costs.I hear there's a bit of a running theme with big US TV shows. The launch on a massive but manageable budget, lots die early because they can't generate the advertising revenue to be profitable, some go Mega like Deadwood, my name is earl, Hero's etc the cast, writters, directors etc demand more and more money based on the idea the figures will continue to grow or at least stay the same costs go through the roof, figures dip or plateu and suddenly a big show is unprofitable.
We're lucky the UK TV people are a little more relaxed or shows like The Inbetweeners would die early on.
The Sopranos lasted for 9 series, which was good. I suppose they were the biggest.
Halb said:
Dooes HBO have adverts? I know HBO kept The Wire on even though it wasn't successful in the early days, but they canned Carnivàle because of the costs.
The Sopranos lasted for 9 series, which was good. I suppose they were the biggest.
You make a fine point, now I think about it I don't think they do. I was wondering the other night as the GF and I were watching the Wire (series 3, second time for me, 1st time for her) that each episode seemed to be the full 1hr on DVD which left not time for ads.The Sopranos lasted for 9 series, which was good. I suppose they were the biggest.
I assume the business model is roughly the same, ratings means more new and retained subcribers rather than advertising revenue.
Suprano's was 6 series, the last shown in 2 halves because of the writters strike I think.
Edited by P-Jay on Friday 20th May 15:32
Edited by P-Jay on Friday 20th May 15:32
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