How you present yourself, big effect on haggling?
How you present yourself, big effect on haggling?
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Copperpot

Original Poster:

37 posts

208 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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I'm a rather 'nice' person, although i do ask everything i need to but i just feel i should be much more 'firm' when buying from a dealer. do you think dealers realize this within the first few moments of meeting you and from then on can control the situation. (or something like that)

How do you approach the situation when buying? Are you yourself, more firm kind of person, closed book, serial killer etc etc. smile

And what do you recommend when it comes down to the price? The last car i bought i think i said something like "Would you except...." But it seems to nice, what other way should you approach this?

Cheers.



Edited by Copperpot on Friday 20th May 17:05

gareth.e

2,071 posts

219 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Watch this weeks 'the apprentice' if you want to know how not to haggle..

Personally I don't talk about price straight away, I'm quiet sly about bringing up other things in conversation.. And I'll often make the link with the sales person when I come haggle.

Some people just aren't hagglers but in negotiation neither party will be truly happy if just the set price is paid. Maybe he could have charged you more for instance..

You can always tell them you've seen x at y for z and go from there

Some people/places just aren't up for haggling.. so go look at them competition

Monkeylegend

29,275 posts

261 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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I'm too nice to tell you the truth wink

Wacky Racer

41,362 posts

277 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Always helps to try and get on the right side of any salesman, by building up a "rapport" with them long before price is mentioned, they can usually suss punters out within two minutes of walking into a showroom...(but not always).....

Be polite and friendly and they are more lightly to "bend a little", than if you rub them up the wrong way......

Just common sense really.....

CaptainRosco

24 posts

186 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Be nice, there's nothing worse than a customer who comes in all guns blazing with a bad attitude, will put the salesman's back up straight away, it'll make the salesman far less inclined to give you a discount.

Build a rapport, get the salesman on side, its much nicer doing business with someone you like to talk to, rather than an arrogant pr*ck, especially one that is trying to prove something. ("look at me darling, look how much i can screw out of this salesman").

If the car is right for you, and is withing budget, you should not feel ashamed of paying the asking price.

Copperpot

Original Poster:

37 posts

208 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Thanks, i'm talking about indi's if that makes a difference.

Well i've already got the friendly bit down, but i definitely feel i should be more firm.


jason s4

16,810 posts

200 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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I ignored calls from my dealer after walking away saying "ill think about it", after he offered me very little in the way of a deal and funnily enough today, i get a text offering me a a substantial amount more on my part ex being as im a 'special customer'.

It pays to make em sweat.

They all want the sales.

MarsellusWallace

1,180 posts

231 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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There's no need to be a bd when it comes to negotiating on cars.

If I were you I would do my homework and see what other deals are available elsewhere on identical cars you are interested in then go to the dealer and be friendly and polite,show him what else you are looking at and see what he can do for you.If he's not playing ball then jokingly point out that he's got to tempt you a little bit more than the alternatives to get the deal-this usually works for me.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

239 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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jason s4 said:
I ignored calls from my dealer after walking away saying "ill think about it", after he offered me very little in the way of a deal and funnily enough today, i get a text offering me a a substantial amount more on my part ex being as im a 'special customer'.

It pays to make em sweat.

They all want the sales.
All salesmen want the sales.

But if you want their car, you need to pay their price.

Make them want to sell it to you rather than thinking "I can't be arsed to sell it to this d!ck, someone else will be in in 15 mins..."

Copperpot

Original Poster:

37 posts

208 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Thanks again everyone. Very helpful.

Is it easier with a main dealer then an indi then? Buying private i like as i feel under no pressure & it's much more casual.

paddyhasneeds

67,732 posts

240 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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I have a very simple take on it tbh. Don't be a bd. Don't be afraid to walk away if the deal isn't right.

I think too many people approach it as if the dealer is doing them a favour and almost forget that they do have the option of just saying "I'll think about it" and, and, if necessary, walking away or going to another dealer.

POORCARDEALER

8,663 posts

271 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Some customers go at it like they are dealing with a mass murderer they show such distane, those customer get zero discount I dont want to deal with them, so their negotiating demenour does them no good.

Friendly decent people I will do a deal with, although on some cars I simply cannot move.

Simond S

4,519 posts

307 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Always be honest with the salesperson.

Dont pretend to be interested when you aren't

Be concise. Their time is money as well.

After their first offer, tell them your required deal.

And leave it with them smile

jason s4

16,810 posts

200 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Gizmo! said:
All salesmen want the sales.

But if you want their car, you need to pay their price.

Make them want to sell it to you rather than thinking "I can't be arsed to sell it to this d!ck, someone else will be in in 15 mins..."
Indeed.

I was only looking round a new one of mine whilst mine was on for a few bits and so when approached, i asked the salesman for some figures.

He wasnt particularly interested TBH, but he gave me the "standard" sales talk, explaining finance options etc.

He offered me quite a good price on mine, although the finance deal wasnt really that good.

I left my details and said i would need a little time to think on it, however, less than 48 hours later i got the 1st call.

The reason i didnt manage to answer his calls is, i am extremely busy during the day and dont get much opportunity to have lengthy conversations.

Personally, i feel that if he didnt want to sell to me, he wouldnt have kept phoning.

He obviously gave up and texted me an improved offer instead, of which i am now considering.
beer

And as i said before, they ALL want the sales.




Froomee

1,501 posts

199 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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In the past i have found looking for the best car(or price if new) before ringing a dealer helps ask all your questions on the phone and then be ready to negotiate to buy after viewing the car assuming all is as you expect. If a car is new and i have found a certain price i will mention it on the phone if it is used i generally go for the best car(ie lowest mileage etc in my price range) then go from there. Its difficult used as some dealers will have paid more for a car which is very similar to something else available cheaper elsewhere.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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best to have a style that fits with the other party to the negotiation - though its the salesman's job to adapt really

nice, fact based, firm, congruent, honest

that seems to work OK for me

Copperpot

Original Poster:

37 posts

208 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Cheers guys,

Well i think i've improved, used to be fairly quiet but with the car i bought i felt positive after as i checked what i needed to, test drove it & even haggled down £50 (£1200 car so not too bad)

Thanks for the tips, definitely helpful.

Moose1978

645 posts

268 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Best piece of advice I was ever given was knowing when to go quiet.

It can feel quite awkward....but has had the desired effect quite a few times!

Copperpot

Original Poster:

37 posts

208 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Moose1978 said:
Best piece of advice I was ever given was knowing when to go quiet.

It can feel quite awkward....but has had the desired effect quite a few times!
Interesting, letting them make the next move. Although for a beginner like me, i'd probably make it more awkward then it needs to be. Lol. But would have the same effect nonetheless i guess.




MarsellusWallace

1,180 posts

231 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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The best car buys Ive ever had I never even negotiated-I did my homework and made sure the car I was buying was either already well priced(or in some cases incorrectly priced),or it was a very rare car advertised at a reasonable price.With new cars I have called around beforehand(sometimes nationally)and asked politely for the best price they could do the car at.When I have communicated with dealers for new or used I let them know that I was in a position to buy off whoever gave the best deal.