T3/T4 turbo for a 5.7 is it too small?
T3/T4 turbo for a 5.7 is it too small?
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300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

41,030 posts

214 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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Hi.

I'd like some advice on turbo's. For the fun of it and the challenge I'd like to have a go at building a home spun turbo kit for my LS1 powered 5.7 litre Camaro. To keep costs and fab work down I'd like to try a rear mount turbo setup (several kits in America that have this configuration).

But I'm struggling to find out what sort of single turbocharger would be suitable for this engine. I'm not looking for huge power, just a modest increase and looking to run ~5psi or may 6.

Do you think a T3/T4 turbo would work for this? I've seen quite a lot on eBay and for not to silly amounts either.

Thanks.

stevieturbo

17,987 posts

271 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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T3 or T4 covers a wide range.

But given most T3 variants will struggle around 400bhp. Putting one on an engine that already makes 400bhp will just be strangling it.

Olivera

8,563 posts

263 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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I've a T34 turbo on my Sierra which I think is the same thing. Not exactly sure how it would perform on a 5.7 V8, but they are good for up to 350bhp with the .48 exhaust housing. You can get up to 400bhp with different exhaust housings but at the expense of shifting the power even more up the rev range.

300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

41,030 posts

214 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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I believe the T3/T4 is a hybrid of the two turbo's.

I've seen kits like this in the US: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...


I know you are really good on your motors, would you be able to recommend where I might find a suitable turbo? Would diesel truck turbo's be an option do you think?

eliot

11,989 posts

278 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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Im running a pair of t34's on my 5.7
Those t3/t4's on ebay a chinese clones, they are not garrett turbos.
You need to learn how to read compressor maps, looks difficult but its very easy - you can read my website about that.
I would guess something like a gt32 is required for a single low hp setup.
Theres a paxton supercharger on ebay right now - Would need to check its big enough for a 5.7

Your 3/4 pack on the 4l60 will be on borrowed time though.

stevieturbo

17,987 posts

271 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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TBH, I'd just buy a new turbocharger that you know will work.

There are a few brands that wont cost the earth in regular oil journal units. Trying to source a big single large enough on the second hand market will be difficult.

Unless you can pick up the likes of a GT35 or something second hand
If the turbo isnt capable of making around 600bhp, then you are wasting your time as it will be too small.

300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

41,030 posts

214 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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Cheers.

I don't mind buying new, just don't really know where to start. Any pointers on what new turbo's I should be looking at?


Eliot - thanks also. Had a look at your website, seems like I have a lot to read.

tinker-27

835 posts

248 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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One of my customers used a Borg warner diesel turbo , it was cheap and should have made 600 hp but never got to run it properly , look them up I think it was from a man truck. I am using two GT35s on my 7,0 litre with a 1.06 exhaust housing , they were specced by turbo technics ,one turbo was going o be very big !!!

stevieturbo

17,987 posts

271 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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AET turbos, CR Turbos, Turbo Technics, Turbo Dynamics etc etc

The list of suppliers is very long.

Borg Warner do make a range of very good turbos, still oil journal at sensible prices.
Something like that may be the best option.

If opting for the US, Precision make a vast range again at very keen prices.

Realistically, best bet is to look on LS1Tech, as they have been there and done it.

Size wise whether up front or at the rear wont make a massive difference.

neal1980

2,584 posts

263 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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tinker-27 said:
One of my customers used a Borg warner diesel turbo , it was cheap and should have made 600 hp but never got to run it properly , look them up I think it was from a man truck. I am using two GT35s on my 7,0 litre with a 1.06 exhaust housing , they were specced by turbo technics ,one turbo was going o be very big !!!
Ive got one of those here brand new Schwitzer S3 its got a 1.40 exhaust housing was going to use it on my V8 but couldnt get it to fit its massive!



Edited by neal1980 on Monday 23 May 22:38

300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

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Tuesday 24th May 2011
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neal1980 said:
Ive got one of those here brand new Schwitzer S3 its got a 1.40 exhaust housing was going to use it on my V8 but couldnt get it to fit its massive!



Edited by neal1980 on Monday 23 May 22:38
Thinking of selling it?

tinker-27

835 posts

248 months

Tuesday 24th May 2011
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Try fitting two under the bonnet line !!!

eliot

11,989 posts

278 months

Tuesday 24th May 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
Thinking of selling it?
You need to make sure it works on your car first. We need to see the compressor map.

wackojacko

8,581 posts

214 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Looked at Holset (Scania) sizing and power outputs ?

Seen a few people running them on the modern V8's and don't cost a fortune.