Do LG make the best TV?

[ShiggyBiggs]

Just heard a guy say that LG tv's are the best, is this true? (he didnt have a reason when I asked)

The same guy also argued that the expensive HDMI cables are better than a cheap one every time. What do you think? Personally I think it doesnt matter as it is a digital signal so would be similar to freeview perhaps, being either on or off? (I assume someone will be along to correct me shortly lol)

Then he was talking about his 500W sub, saying stuff like "500w is crazy power!" or whatever. But its passive, so are they not the same as car stereos. In the way that they only have as much power as the amp supplys? So for example, the amp has 40w so the sub only has 40w of power? Because Ive had a 1000w sub in my car before with a 300w amp, and wouldnt go around telling people it is 1000w of bass.

Cheers!

[GregE240]

I think you probably know the answers already.

As for Billy Bullst, leave him to his little world.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

Lg actually do some very very good sets these days only black levels arnt great

as for the sub your both right and wrong av subs are usually all active not passive so the power he is quoting could very well be the power of the subs amp

thsi is a 500w sub its a bk monolith DF

Edited by Trustmeimadoctor on Monday 23 May 15:54

[GregE240]

Er, you can get active and passive subs! Passive draw power from the amp / receiver.

[ShiggyBiggs]

Trustmeimadoctor said:

Lg actually do some very very good sets these days only black levels arnt great

as for the sub your both right and wrong av subs are usually all active not passive so the power he is quoting could very well be the power of the subs amp

thsi is a 500w sub its a bk monolith DF

Edited by Trustmeimadoctor on Monday 23 May 15:54

It's definatly passive!

GregE240 said:

I think you probably know the answers already.

As for Billy Bullst, leave him to his little world.

Yeah, thats what I thought.

The reason I ask was because he works in a tv shop and therefor automatically knows everything about tv's. So what he says goes in everyone elses eyes.

Edited by ShiggyBiggs on Monday 23 May 16:15

[spats]

LG arent the best. They arent bad but theres better.

His passive sub takes the power more than likely from an all in one system. Again these arent bad, but they arent the best either.

Sounds like hes had the "Dixons" BS brainwash!

Although he is correct about better quality cables being better than cheap ones. It might not be as clear a difference as scart leads were, but at the very least the better cables will last longer!

[Trustmeimadoctor]

if the cable never moves a hdmi cable is a hdmi cable is a hdmi cable it will keep on working

[spats]

Trustmeimadoctor said:

if the cable never moves a hdmi cable is a hdmi cable is a hdmi cable it will keep on working

Sorry, I disagree. Better quality parts means higher price, normally that means better performance. Back when I was selling TV's I tested many cables on the high end gear we had and there was a difference in quality of sound and picture. When you see the difference yourself its hard to ignore it.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

analogue does benefit from quality cables but hdmi does not if the signal makes it down the cable then it works if it doesnt then it doesnt work simples.

the voltage on an analogue video cable represented discreet colour values so if the voltage was slightly off then you got a different shade

with a hdmi cable if the voltage is between say 1 and 1.5 volts that thats interpreted as a 1 and if its between say 0 and .5 then its a 0 thats it. they also use error checking so it knows what its supposed to have received if its different it resends it again if it still doesnt then the picture can break up if it gets worse you get sweet FA not the gradual breakup of analogue cables

[Ultuous]

spats said:

Trustmeimadoctor said:

if the cable never moves a hdmi cable is a hdmi cable is a hdmi cable it will keep on working

Sorry, I disagree. Better quality parts means higher price, normally that means better performance. Back when I was selling TV's I tested many cables on the high end gear we had and there was a difference in quality of sound and picture. When you see the difference yourself its hard to ignore it.

In an attempt to summarise the ensuing debate before it occurs, it always goes something like this:

- The uninformed will say 'better' HDMI cables must mean better performance shelling out half the cost of their telly on cables because the guy in Currys said they needed to
- The slightly better informed will realise digital means "it's all 0's and 1's regardless"
- The more informed will realise that an HD TV signal is extremely high bandwidth, and therefore errors will occur in the "0's and 1's" on a cheap cable, despite having error suppression algorithms built into the hardware

The general professional consensus (if there is such a thing) seems to eventually gravitate towards the fact that better cables do give slightly better performance: for a short run/ HD ready you're not likely to notice - if you're spending 3 grand on a massive high-end Plasma it's probably worth spending >£5 on cables!

[Trustmeimadoctor]

I agree if your spending 3k on a tvimay spend uptown 10 ! but as all HDMI stuff is certified then there shouldn't be an issue. Tbh only time I'd really be willing to pay more is if Iowa's chasing them in a wall or ceiling etc as you don't want thehassle

[OldSkoolRS]

Sounds like this guy doesn't really know much about TVs or subwoofers OP so I'd ignore his advice.

Also just to point out that the Monolith isn't a 500 Watt sub, it's actually 'only' 300 watts RMS but one can still rattle the solid oak door in my living room when I'm enjoying a film. I suspect if the OP's friend heard a decent sub rather than a POS passive one connected to a Currys all in one system he might realise how daft he is.

Can't say I'm a fan of LG products either...

[Trustmeimadoctor]

the monolith+ is 500w RMS 1000W peak

[OldSkoolRS]

Trustmeimadoctor said:

the monolith+ is 500w RMS 1000W peak

No it isn't see their own website:

http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/monolith-df...

Clearly states 300 Watt RMS 600 Watt peak.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

i said the monolith + as in PLUS !!!
to quote
"The New and Awesome Monolith-DF + Subwoofer 500W RMS (1000W Peak) 12" Ported Reflex"
http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/monolith-df...

[TonyRPH]

RE: HDMI Cables.

Read

Why all HDMI cables are the same

HD Guru

And HD Guru #2

And draw your own conclusions.

For the more technical:

HDMI and DVI use Transition Minimized Differential Signaling

"The transmitter incorporates an advanced coding algorithm which reduces electromagnetic interference over copper cables and enables robust clock recovery at the receiver to achieve high skew tolerance for driving longer cables as well as shorter low cost cables."

The cable will have to be really, really bad (or damaged) for any signal degradation to occur.

[im]

LG

Has nobody been along to tell you about Panasonic's????

I'm stunned.

[Mr E]

im said:

LG

Has nobody been along to tell you about Panasonic's????

I'm stunned.

I scoff your panasonic and raise you a pioneer. A tv so good they stopped making it....

[OldSkoolRS]

Trustmeimadoctor said:

i said the monolith + as in PLUS !!!
to quote
"The New and Awesome Monolith-DF + Subwoofer 500W RMS (1000W Peak) 12" Ported Reflex"
http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/monolith-df...

My appologies, but to be fair the one in your picture further up just said Monolith DF, so was going on that as that's the model I have (I do fancy a second one to spread the bass around a bit though )

@OP +1 regarding the Panasonic, surprised you haven't been arrested by the PH TV police for not considering one. However, whatever you buy, don't read up on the web about it once you have it as you'll find all sorts of issues with it that you've never noticed.

[headcase]

LG is the best, if you use best meaning worst.....
Well not really worst, they are a budget set so you get what you pay for, i've seen much worse than LG.