M3 touring; your thoughts?
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After destroying my '01 plate M3 a few weeks ago on a track day I have decided to A/ retire from any further track day activity forthwith and more importantly B/ try and create an M3 touring using what is left from the wreckage (it was a rear end shunt that has pickled the floor so engine, gearbox etc. all still good and usable 
). I have today bought a suitable Hellrot 318i touring ripe for the task and early investigation is looking like this may be a very do-able all be it painstaking project. Has anyone here any knowledge or experience of such a conversion and if so would you possibly be kind enough to relay any real world information that may benefit me in trying to create what is, at the moment at least, a 'virtual' M3 touring?
Thanks in advance
). I have today bought a suitable Hellrot 318i touring ripe for the task and early investigation is looking like this may be a very do-able all be it painstaking project. Has anyone here any knowledge or experience of such a conversion and if so would you possibly be kind enough to relay any real world information that may benefit me in trying to create what is, at the moment at least, a 'virtual' M3 touring?Thanks in advance
Sounds like a great idea! I do remember someone else building one (or was it a 5 series?) too, but it would be a hell of a car!
Alternatively, buy a rolling chassis, caterham style, and dump it in there! If you could make it fit and do the necessaries to the handling, that would be one incredible car!
Alternatively, buy a rolling chassis, caterham style, and dump it in there! If you could make it fit and do the necessaries to the handling, that would be one incredible car!
Sound interesting, good luck to you if you go ahead with it.
Don't know about an E46 but an E90 has been done.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4924...
Don't know about an E46 but an E90 has been done.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4924...
Hi
Yes, a blue E46 M3 Touring that was created by it's owner and put up for sale ! very nice !
The E39 M5 Touring was also made at home and painstakingly finished over quite some time. I met the owner and we had a good chat over a couple hours about it ! it's got a massive write up thread on the M5board and I'm sure a few other forums too. One thing you might find is bit of a pain, is fooling the E46 M3 ECU into there's a rear wash wipe fitted! Steve, who made the M5 Touring specifically mentioned that simple thing was a real pain to resolve! perhaps the E46 ECU is kinder to reprogramming than the E39 M5 ecu !
I'm a Touring fan ! and in true Blue Peter style..
Here's one I made earlier
This car is now looking even better to me as it's been more highly modified, it lives just 2 miles away from me
Yes, those are the ultra rare Konig seats from those 8 or so limited edition E30 M3's that were produced..
Go ahead make another E46 M3 Touring !!
Cheers, Dennis!
Yes, a blue E46 M3 Touring that was created by it's owner and put up for sale ! very nice !
The E39 M5 Touring was also made at home and painstakingly finished over quite some time. I met the owner and we had a good chat over a couple hours about it ! it's got a massive write up thread on the M5board and I'm sure a few other forums too. One thing you might find is bit of a pain, is fooling the E46 M3 ECU into there's a rear wash wipe fitted! Steve, who made the M5 Touring specifically mentioned that simple thing was a real pain to resolve! perhaps the E46 ECU is kinder to reprogramming than the E39 M5 ecu !
I'm a Touring fan ! and in true Blue Peter style..
Here's one I made earlier
This car is now looking even better to me as it's been more highly modified, it lives just 2 miles away from me
Yes, those are the ultra rare Konig seats from those 8 or so limited edition E30 M3's that were produced..
Go ahead make another E46 M3 Touring !!
Cheers, Dennis!
Build thread here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Update here too:
http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I think it was sold on ebay recently
Edited by Ranger 6 on Tuesday 24th May 16:12
GTWayne said:
After destroying my '01 plate M3 a few weeks ago on a track day I have decided to A/ retire from any further track day activity forthwith and more importantly B/ try and create an M3 touring using what is left from the wreckage (it was a rear end shunt that has pickled the floor so engine, gearbox etc. all still good and usable ). I have today bought a suitable Hellrot 318i touring ripe for the task and early investigation is looking like this may be a very do-able all be it painstaking project. Has anyone here any knowledge or experience of such a conversion and if so would you possibly be kind enough to relay any real world information that may benefit me in trying to create what is, at the moment at least, a 'virtual' M3 touring?
Thanks in advance
). I have today bought a suitable Hellrot 318i touring ripe for the task and early investigation is looking like this may be a very do-able all be it painstaking project. Has anyone here any knowledge or experience of such a conversion and if so would you possibly be kind enough to relay any real world information that may benefit me in trying to create what is, at the moment at least, a 'virtual' M3 touring?Thanks in advance
Damn; how did this crash happen? I hope you had some track insurance.
Good luck on the M3 touring project... Sounds great if you can do it!
E30M3SE
You may be very well correct! I remember reading somewhere about the Konig seats that were fitted to 8 I believe rare edition M3's. There's every possibility they were indeed a re-upholstered Recaro like the ones you pictured! only some more research can conclude that! the car I pictured above technically wasn't 'mine' I had access to it whenever I wanted, at the time of the pics, it belonged to a now ex business partner and I had first dibs if it was ever needing to be sold.
It's my current understanding that those seats were indeed the Konig ones, however if it turns out they're not and are recaro's then fair enough! the owner of the car now lives just a couple miles away from me (it was sold without me getting those dibs!!!!!) and i'll update him!
nowadays it looks much better than in those pics
Cheers, Dennis!
You may be very well correct! I remember reading somewhere about the Konig seats that were fitted to 8 I believe rare edition M3's. There's every possibility they were indeed a re-upholstered Recaro like the ones you pictured! only some more research can conclude that! the car I pictured above technically wasn't 'mine' I had access to it whenever I wanted, at the time of the pics, it belonged to a now ex business partner and I had first dibs if it was ever needing to be sold.
It's my current understanding that those seats were indeed the Konig ones, however if it turns out they're not and are recaro's then fair enough! the owner of the car now lives just a couple miles away from me (it was sold without me getting those dibs!!!!!) and i'll update him!
nowadays it looks much better than in those pics
Cheers, Dennis!
Franzino said:
Damn; how did this crash happen? I hope you had some track insurance.
Good luck on the M3 touring project... Sounds great if you can do it!
Brakes failed completely!Good luck on the M3 touring project... Sounds great if you can do it!
If I am honest it was my own fault as I did have some idea that they were a bit iffy through the previous few corners but being a bit of a numpty I thought I might be able to drive around the problem - big mistake No.1 !
No insurance, don't believe in it (for the track that is) - big mistake No. 2!
Can I do the M3 touring project? - yes, I believe so and the wheels are already in motion (no pun intended
)Hi
Cheers, MattOz - thing is, that bonnet detail was required because the engine was sitting at the 'correct' angle. Reason is the conversion itself was a little 'rushed' - it's quite possible to have the engine sitting in there perfectly as per the conversion that Hartge did (I know the owner of one of the 6 examples made by them!) It was either remove and modify the thingy's to allow the engine to sit properly, or have this detail done so the bonnet could shut properly again!
Have any more private enthusiasts dropped in say an E90 M3 engine into perhaps an E46 or an E91 (is that the right code for current shape 3 series Touring?)
Cheers, Dennis!
Cheers, MattOz - thing is, that bonnet detail was required because the engine was sitting at the 'correct' angle. Reason is the conversion itself was a little 'rushed' - it's quite possible to have the engine sitting in there perfectly as per the conversion that Hartge did (I know the owner of one of the 6 examples made by them!) It was either remove and modify the thingy's to allow the engine to sit properly, or have this detail done so the bonnet could shut properly again!
Have any more private enthusiasts dropped in say an E90 M3 engine into perhaps an E46 or an E91 (is that the right code for current shape 3 series Touring?)
Cheers, Dennis!
Dennis,
There's a chap from Birmingham who has an E91 M3 V8. It's been converted beautifully.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4924...
Also, Phil Morrison from Driftworks has recently completed his E60 M5 V10 into an E46 M3 conversion.
Matt
There's a chap from Birmingham who has an E91 M3 V8. It's been converted beautifully.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4924...
Also, Phil Morrison from Driftworks has recently completed his E60 M5 V10 into an E46 M3 conversion.
Matt
Well it may have taken a while but it LIVES!
Got fault lights up all over the dash at the moment though but it is at least running
The car is sitting on black CSL's at present (2 x pairs of fronts) and looks really good. The colour of the car is Helrot
Over the winter I hope to get the rear arches flared and fit the correct 9.5" rear wheels. I have a CSL front apron for it too but that is where I am going to leave it I think, and no quad zorst either (can't be arsed to cut out the spare wheel well), going to use an Evo 3.2 back box or similar.
Can anyone recommend an ECU guy that will be able to sort all the fault codes and wot not?
Got fault lights up all over the dash at the moment though but it is at least running
The car is sitting on black CSL's at present (2 x pairs of fronts) and looks really good. The colour of the car is Helrot
Over the winter I hope to get the rear arches flared and fit the correct 9.5" rear wheels. I have a CSL front apron for it too but that is where I am going to leave it I think, and no quad zorst either (can't be arsed to cut out the spare wheel well), going to use an Evo 3.2 back box or similar.
Can anyone recommend an ECU guy that will be able to sort all the fault codes and wot not?
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