F1 Should Be like This!
F1 Should Be like This!
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StudentMike

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1,049 posts

185 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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How about this for an idea?

Instead of drivers belonging to a team that builds the cars, have them as a separate team, along with the pit crew and race managers etc etc. (1 Driver per team)

So each 'constructor team' builds two cars, in hope of winning the constructors championship.
And each 'driver team' wants to win the driver championship (obviously).

Then pull names out of a hat at the beginning of each race to decide which 'driver team is paired with each car.

this way they can still have a team dynamic, which they set the car up, perform pit stops, but it would effectively level the field for drivers and constructors alike:

From the drivers point of view: they could end up with a good or bad car, and from the constructors point of view they could end up with a good/not so good driver. it also stops the team orders scenario coming up, where the slower driver is ordered to let his team-mate pass him.
this would surely then average out across the year, and produce spectacular results along the way.

What do you think?

LordGrover

34,156 posts

241 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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StudentMike said:
What do you think?
I assume you're a first year 'fresher'?

StudentMike

Original Poster:

1,049 posts

185 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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LordGrover said:
StudentMike said:
What do you think?
I assume you're a first year 'fresher'?
Not at all - PHD Student

StudentMike

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1,049 posts

185 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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JonRB said:
Who pays the drivers? Who invests in Driver Development Schemes? Where do teams get important driver feedback and car development information from?

What a lame half-baked idea, if you'll forgive me for being so blunt.
Ok, hadn't got as far as how to fund everything, but surely it would produce much better races?

JonRB

80,014 posts

301 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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StudentMike said:
but surely it would produce much better races?
Would it really? Why "surely"?

CocoUK

1,065 posts

211 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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How would this work for Schumacher & Alonso? Where will Vettel get his front-wing from?

GAjon

4,078 posts

242 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Isnt that similar to how formula Palmer Audi was/is set up anyway.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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f1 drivers know their teams, they know their engineers, its how it works, F1 isnt meant to be fair

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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stupid idea.


Richard-G

1,743 posts

204 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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you know something, give most of the drivers the exact same car and they will all be within a tenth of each other.

only the special ones (hamilton, Alonso, Kubica et al) can find the next tenth. Then you get into consistancy which is a whole different ball game. Senna was often faster than prost but prost was faster over the whole race as he had mechanical sympathy, sense of self preservation

mix them up like you're suggesting and then its will just be a meaningless jumble of crap

durbster

12,042 posts

251 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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If you ever wanted to answer the question of, who is the best driver, and, which is the best car, then you should have each driver switch teams for every race. The fastest drivers should still come out on top and the fastest cars should also win the constructors. In theory.

Obviously F1 is no place for such silliness, but for a feeder formala which exists to find the best drivers and crews, it might work. smile

StevieBee

15,286 posts

284 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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GAjon said:
Isnt that similar to how formula Palmer Audi was/is set up anyway.
Sort of. FPA was one big team for which a load of drivers raced but they had the same car each race.

I did read that it's success was also its failure in that drivers couldn't use set-up or car related excuses for poor performance. Too many driver's deficiencies were exposed which is why so few went on to bigger things from the series. Ended up being a very expensive -arrive and drive type thing for rich, middle aged blokes.

srreck

529 posts

290 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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NHK244V

3,358 posts

201 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Scuffers said:
stupid idea.
They do PHDs in that subject now (apparently).
OP keep at it a few more really stupid ideas and you'll be qualified to run the country biggrin

designndrive62

801 posts

186 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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StevieBee said:
GAjon said:
Isnt that similar to how formula Palmer Audi was/is set up anyway.
Sort of. FPA was one big team for which a load of drivers raced but they had the same car each race.

I did read that it's success was also its failure in that drivers couldn't use set-up or car related excuses for poor performance. Too many driver's deficiencies were exposed which is why so few went on to bigger things from the series. Ended up being a very expensive -arrive and drive type thing for rich, middle aged blokes.
F2 still works this way... Mechanics rotate so drivers never work with the same team throughout the season

Silverbullet767

11,242 posts

235 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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