Falling out of love..
Discussion
Before I start I'll put the flame suit on..
However, today I just picked up what is going to the car that chauffeurs me to my wedding on Sunday and its a Range Rover Sport! What an amazing car! And I've had a bunch of comments from people about why I don't shop the TVR in for a Rangey.. Now normally I would defend the TVR saying how 'special' it is compared to a boring Range Rover, but with the car having been in the garage for the last 3 months after a 'random' bearing failure I think I'm starting to totally loose faith in it... I had a trip to Spa/'Ring planned which it didn't make it to, and then looked forward to having it as the wedding car but now its missed both as well as pretty much the whole of Spring!
I'm now worried that after spending so much money to rebuild it and put in a new clutch it will only fail again in a similarly 'random' fashion.. I bought it to enjoy, and so far its brought nothing but sorrow whilst emptying my pocket on the way..
Not sure if I just need some words of encouragement but my dream car has turned into a complete nightmare and I'm thinking maybe its better to just cut my losses when it returns and sell up
However, today I just picked up what is going to the car that chauffeurs me to my wedding on Sunday and its a Range Rover Sport! What an amazing car! And I've had a bunch of comments from people about why I don't shop the TVR in for a Rangey.. Now normally I would defend the TVR saying how 'special' it is compared to a boring Range Rover, but with the car having been in the garage for the last 3 months after a 'random' bearing failure I think I'm starting to totally loose faith in it... I had a trip to Spa/'Ring planned which it didn't make it to, and then looked forward to having it as the wedding car but now its missed both as well as pretty much the whole of Spring!
I'm now worried that after spending so much money to rebuild it and put in a new clutch it will only fail again in a similarly 'random' fashion.. I bought it to enjoy, and so far its brought nothing but sorrow whilst emptying my pocket on the way..
Not sure if I just need some words of encouragement but my dream car has turned into a complete nightmare and I'm thinking maybe its better to just cut my losses when it returns and sell up
Personally the Cerb is a keeper for me, however, I can understand your sentiment though I think you'd regret the sale of a "special" car for the sake of something just "nice.
I had the use of a RR Sport for about a month over the Christmas / snowy period and, though our relationship started with me being very sceptical about the footballers' wives image and the dodgy bling factor, I was actually very impressed. Beautiful inside, amazingly quick and tidy handling for such a chunk of metal and just a great place to spend time.
I did (briefly) consider whether I should chop in our family wagon for one, however, after actually measuring the economy of the "frugal" 3 litre diesel and finding it to be around 15-17 mpg, I decided against it. I don't mind those sort of running cost on the Cerb which I can use when I want to, however, it's another matter when it's your every day drive and you can also watch it depreciate almost daily. Another non-issue with the Cerb.
Lovely car if you're prepared for the running costs though, also amazing in the white stuff, even on the bling 20" alloys this one had.
I had the use of a RR Sport for about a month over the Christmas / snowy period and, though our relationship started with me being very sceptical about the footballers' wives image and the dodgy bling factor, I was actually very impressed. Beautiful inside, amazingly quick and tidy handling for such a chunk of metal and just a great place to spend time.
I did (briefly) consider whether I should chop in our family wagon for one, however, after actually measuring the economy of the "frugal" 3 litre diesel and finding it to be around 15-17 mpg, I decided against it. I don't mind those sort of running cost on the Cerb which I can use when I want to, however, it's another matter when it's your every day drive and you can also watch it depreciate almost daily. Another non-issue with the Cerb.
Lovely car if you're prepared for the running costs though, also amazing in the white stuff, even on the bling 20" alloys this one had.
Range rover sport is a great vehicle. Fuel consumption - even the diesel is comical for every day use.
I still had a TVR when I had the RR sport, but guess what I still have a TVR
The TVR for me is just a great feeling and occasion on every drive.
I am now using mine every day , sure that will change when the snow comes.
Get both!
I still had a TVR when I had the RR sport, but guess what I still have a TVR
The TVR for me is just a great feeling and occasion on every drive.
I am now using mine every day , sure that will change when the snow comes.
Get both!
Mmmmm, tough one really. Very tough if I were to be honest...
so I won't be....
When you're suffering, a luscious, warm, soothing help is so seductive - almost irresistable.
Almost...
Go through the pain and build a relationship that you can look back on with pride.
You (and people you appreciate) will respect you for it !
so I won't be....
When you're suffering, a luscious, warm, soothing help is so seductive - almost irresistable.
Almost...
Go through the pain and build a relationship that you can look back on with pride.
You (and people you appreciate) will respect you for it !
Wotcha,
I have had my cerb for around 7 years ... i fell out of love when it started farting around with poor running , then a spate of overheating ,clutch pedal dropped to the floor .. then the clincher rusty out riggers.
I left her sat in the garage for around 18 months but back on the road a month or so again ... the overheating was fixed before the lay up , I did the outriggers myself on the car with the help of a tig welding friend and the poor running seems to be resolved and I bled the clutch at the time and then pumped pedal every couple of weeks so that still seems ok....
Nett result cerb back on road and its like an old friend - took it from letchworth to nottingham return today 220 miles or so and loved every minute of it !
Im sure she will bite again soon .. but hey thats another story Im sure!
David
I have had my cerb for around 7 years ... i fell out of love when it started farting around with poor running , then a spate of overheating ,clutch pedal dropped to the floor .. then the clincher rusty out riggers.
I left her sat in the garage for around 18 months but back on the road a month or so again ... the overheating was fixed before the lay up , I did the outriggers myself on the car with the help of a tig welding friend and the poor running seems to be resolved and I bled the clutch at the time and then pumped pedal every couple of weeks so that still seems ok....
Nett result cerb back on road and its like an old friend - took it from letchworth to nottingham return today 220 miles or so and loved every minute of it !
Im sure she will bite again soon .. but hey thats another story Im sure!
David
Tvr ownership can be an emotional roller coaster. For every tvr that costs buttons to run there's one that costs thousands.
If you sell you will only want another in a few months time.
I have a Disco 3 which is the same car as a RRS just different body and interior. Had it for 4 yrs now, been trouble free. Even in our hilly location we get 23mpg with only short journeys. My wife is looking to chop it in against a new RRS but they are quite pricey £65k plus n a decent spec I think. So might go for a 3 yr old TDV8 model for 30k ish. Not quite as nice. Even with the tdv8 I am expecting 20 mpg which is ok with me. If you go petrol supercharged then I suspect you are looking at 16mpg.
Anyway I don't see a RRS as a replacement for cerb. Totally different.
If you sell you will only want another in a few months time.
I have a Disco 3 which is the same car as a RRS just different body and interior. Had it for 4 yrs now, been trouble free. Even in our hilly location we get 23mpg with only short journeys. My wife is looking to chop it in against a new RRS but they are quite pricey £65k plus n a decent spec I think. So might go for a 3 yr old TDV8 model for 30k ish. Not quite as nice. Even with the tdv8 I am expecting 20 mpg which is ok with me. If you go petrol supercharged then I suspect you are looking at 16mpg.
Anyway I don't see a RRS as a replacement for cerb. Totally different.
Some strange figures re RRS on here. 65K for a new one? A good specification HSE can be bought for 10K less than that. The Autobigraphy is too dear for what it is over and above HSE.
15-16mpg from the diesel? I get 25+ out of mine, and I drive evrywhere like I stole the flippin thing.
The RRS is a great car, but mainly for one reason. It's a Discovery 4 in dinner dress and for my money, there is little out there that does the job it's supposed to do better than Discovery 4.
It ain't a TVR though. I have never enjoyed my time in the trade as much as when I worked with TVR.
15-16mpg from the diesel? I get 25+ out of mine, and I drive evrywhere like I stole the flippin thing.
The RRS is a great car, but mainly for one reason. It's a Discovery 4 in dinner dress and for my money, there is little out there that does the job it's supposed to do better than Discovery 4.
It ain't a TVR though. I have never enjoyed my time in the trade as much as when I worked with TVR.
Gazzab said:
Tvr ownership can be an emotional roller coaster. For every tvr that costs buttons to run there's one that costs thousands.
If you sell you will only want another in a few months time.
If you sell you will only want another in a few months time.
...but sometimes it's the thing to do.
I've had a bunch of 'em. One in particular was sooooooo awful I sent it back on a low loader & vowed never to have another...
....about four weeks later I did of course buy one. Sometimes cut & run can be the answer if you've fallen out of love
A friend of mine is a Landrover specialist and tbh, if you think Cerbs are expensive wait till things on you Landrover/Rangerover start wearing out.
Clutch
Dual Mass Flywheel
EGR valves
Rear suspension bushes.
ALL of these require the BODY!!!! to be removed from the drivetrain to be repaired (on the Disco 3) he currently has a car in from the dealer network that they cannot repair cost effectively. The bill currently stands at £3500.....
Clutch
Dual Mass Flywheel
EGR valves
Rear suspension bushes.
ALL of these require the BODY!!!! to be removed from the drivetrain to be repaired (on the Disco 3) he currently has a car in from the dealer network that they cannot repair cost effectively. The bill currently stands at £3500.....
Keep with it sir,this is just part of our lovely hobbie.Ive had many many very nice cars over the years and most of em have hit hard on the wallet,but that is my choice.Have tried normal cars but cant do em for some reason.My cerb is a totally differant car from nearly all my previous motors but i have a real bond with her in a short time.If you look at it and hate it move it on,but i doubt you feel like that about your little beauty
ridds said:
A friend of mine is a Landrover specialist and tbh, if you think Cerbs are expensive wait till things on you Landrover/Rangerover start wearing out.
Clutch
Dual Mass Flywheel
EGR valves
Rear suspension bushes.
ALL of these require the BODY!!!! to be removed from the drivetrain to be repaired (on the Disco 3) he currently has a car in from the dealer network that they cannot repair cost effectively. The bill currently stands at £3500.....
Is this the same with the L322 Range Rover?? If so I will cross that one off the future list!Clutch
Dual Mass Flywheel
EGR valves
Rear suspension bushes.
ALL of these require the BODY!!!! to be removed from the drivetrain to be repaired (on the Disco 3) he currently has a car in from the dealer network that they cannot repair cost effectively. The bill currently stands at £3500.....
Having to remove the body for suspension bushes is ridiculous!!
markh1 said:
ridds said:
A friend of mine is a Landrover specialist and tbh, if you think Cerbs are expensive wait till things on you Landrover/Rangerover start wearing out.
Clutch
Dual Mass Flywheel
EGR valves
Rear suspension bushes.
ALL of these require the BODY!!!! to be removed from the drivetrain to be repaired (on the Disco 3) he currently has a car in from the dealer network that they cannot repair cost effectively. The bill currently stands at £3500.....
Is this the same with the L322 Range Rover?? If so I will cross that one off the future list!Clutch
Dual Mass Flywheel
EGR valves
Rear suspension bushes.
ALL of these require the BODY!!!! to be removed from the drivetrain to be repaired (on the Disco 3) he currently has a car in from the dealer network that they cannot repair cost effectively. The bill currently stands at £3500.....
Having to remove the body for suspension bushes is ridiculous!!
On the Disco 3 the body is lifted a little at the 90K service which is not very a difficult job and not hugely expensive if you think that it costs about £1200 for that service all in but divide that by 90K and what do you get as a cost per mile?
Do not be put off buying a supremely adaptable car by these sort of horror stories.
The Cerb is better at this though
http://vimeo.com/24387667
If you feel that way, just sell it.
TVRs are trouble, they are temperamental and expensive to keep in top condition.
I often describe owning a TVR as more like a hobby than a form of transport.
I love TVRs and will defend them to the uninitiated, you'll probably get the car back and forget all the hassle after the first drive, if not, private ads are free on Pistonheads.
Tim
TVRs are trouble, they are temperamental and expensive to keep in top condition.
I often describe owning a TVR as more like a hobby than a form of transport.
I love TVRs and will defend them to the uninitiated, you'll probably get the car back and forget all the hassle after the first drive, if not, private ads are free on Pistonheads.
Tim
gruffalo said:
markh1 said:
ridds said:
A friend of mine is a Landrover specialist and tbh, if you think Cerbs are expensive wait till things on you Landrover/Rangerover start wearing out.
Clutch
Dual Mass Flywheel
EGR valves
Rear suspension bushes.
ALL of these require the BODY!!!! to be removed from the drivetrain to be repaired (on the Disco 3) he currently has a car in from the dealer network that they cannot repair cost effectively. The bill currently stands at £3500.....
Is this the same with the L322 Range Rover?? If so I will cross that one off the future list!Clutch
Dual Mass Flywheel
EGR valves
Rear suspension bushes.
ALL of these require the BODY!!!! to be removed from the drivetrain to be repaired (on the Disco 3) he currently has a car in from the dealer network that they cannot repair cost effectively. The bill currently stands at £3500.....
Having to remove the body for suspension bushes is ridiculous!!
On the Disco 3 the body is lifted a little at the 90K service which is not very a difficult job and not hugely expensive if you think that it costs about £1200 for that service all in but divide that by 90K and what do you get as a cost per mile?
Do not be put off buying a supremely adaptable car by these sort of horror stories.
The Cerb is better at this though
http://vimeo.com/24387667
How different is the body on the RR Sport to the D3?
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