RE: Small-Capacity Turbo Rumoured For Next Corvette
RE: Small-Capacity Turbo Rumoured For Next Corvette
Tuesday 31st May 2011

Small-Capacity Turbo Rumoured For Next Corvette

GM cuts the cubes for Corvette C7



That last bastion of big-capacity performance motoring, the Chevrolet Corvette, could be about to cave to downsizing pressure and introduce a small-capacity turbo motor in the next-generation C7 version.

According to TheDetroitBureau.com, the new engine will have a capacity of a little more than 3.0 litres (yes, we know - that's only really 'small capacity' in US terms), with a high rev limit, overhead cams and turbocharging helping it to produce an expected 400bhp-plus.

The move is symptomatic of a new Corvette that, according to insiders (at least according to insiders according to TheDetroitBureau.com), is aiming at appealing to younger buyers who would otherwise be tempted by the likes of Porsche, Lamborghini and Ferrari.

But it seems that the classic Corvette mould isn't being entirely broken - a big-block OHV version will apparently still be available for those who still subscribe to the adage that 'there ain't no replacement for displacement'.

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suffolk009

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7,889 posts

195 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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where will people who need a big burbling v8 for their kit-car/small production run models go for their motive power?

mackie1

8,169 posts

263 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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I'm sure GM will produce crate engines for a good while yet.

DrewBot

11 posts

185 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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I don't really see the point on such a low volume car. With the 1.4TSI and the Mercedes and BMW V8 turbos the volumes are high enough to make a genuine difference, but with this it just won't. Unless they are using the 'halo' effect to turn Americans on to downsizing to shift more of their higher volume models with small turbo engines.

For those who care, 3.0 will still be too big; for those who don't, this will not appeal.

cheesyblob

370 posts

205 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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DrewBot said:
I don't really see the point on such a low volume car. With the 1.4TSI and the Mercedes and BMW V8 turbos the volumes are high enough to make a genuine difference, but with this it just won't. Unless they are using the 'halo' effect to turn Americans on to downsizing to shift more of their higher volume models with small turbo engines.

For those who care, 3.0 will still be too big; for those who don't, this will not appeal.
Actually the Corvette is a massive seller in America, with 100s of 1000s made each year. I don't believe that they will switch to smaller turbocharged engines as they've said that lots but never done it.

XitUp

7,690 posts

234 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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The only reason I could think of them doing this is if they were planning on selling more in the EU and needed to get through certain tests.
I'd much rather they combined the big V8s with the hybrid tech they have.

mackie1

8,169 posts

263 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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cheesyblob said:
Actually the Corvette is a massive seller in America, with 100s of 1000s made each year. I don't believe that they will switch to smaller turbocharged engines as they've said that lots but never done it.
They made 35,000 of them in 2008 so not exactly low volume but pretty small fry compared to the total of all GM cars made.

DrewBot

11 posts

185 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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cheesyblob said:
Actually the Corvette is a massive seller in America, with 100s of 1000s made each year. I don't believe that they will switch to smaller turbocharged engines as they've said that lots but never done it.
Oh, my mistake. Maybe there is a point then.

Although high revv-ing turbo 3.0 V8 sounds very appealing to me, I have already proved I know nothing of the US car market so am in no position to speculate about potential sales rolleyes

jbi

12,700 posts

234 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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I can see the small engine appealing to teenagers and those who grew up with videogames...

I all for choice... lets see how it pans out,

StottyZr

6,860 posts

193 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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jbi said:
I can see the small engine appealing to teenagers and those who grew up with videogames...

I all for choice... lets see how it pans out,
And those of us who like good fuel consumption when driving steady and a lot of power when we want it rolleyes

XitUp

7,690 posts

234 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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StottyZr said:
And those of us who like good fuel consumption when driving steady and a lot of power when we want it rolleyes
Doesn't the Corvette do that already?

jbi

12,700 posts

234 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Indeed, I can't see how to the turbo motor will substantially improve on what is a very economical engine relatively and that already delivers great performance.

I can see the small engine giving a different kind of performance, but not necessarily better.

LuS1fer

43,517 posts

275 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Can't see it.
Gm already have a direct injection 3.6 V6 that produces 305hp in the Camaro and somewhat less in the Cadillac CTS so turbocharging that would easily take it over the 400hp barrier.

Since the V8 doesn't even incur the gas-guzzler tax, this can only be a sop to those brainwashed by the small european elastic-bandwagon contingent who might buy one with a smaller turbocharged engine but it would clearly have no advantage so far as emissions are concerned in the UK and I believe European taxation favours under 2.0 cars.

I could maybe see the sense in a 2.0 blown Corvette but that would then have to compete with lesser cars and destroy any cachet the big V8 had.

EDLT

15,421 posts

236 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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It sounds more like they are making a base-spec Corvette to go under the model people will actually buy.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

239 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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EDLT said:
It sounds more like they are making a base-spec Corvette to go under the model people will actually buy.
Like the old Camaro RS vs IROC-Z smile

car95

413 posts

222 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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XitUp said:
StottyZr said:
And those of us who like good fuel consumption when driving steady and a lot of power when we want it rolleyes
Doesn't the Corvette do that already?
It certainly does. Lovely 7 litre V8 in the Z06. 24 mpg. V. relaxing to cruise in. Power? Oh, yes.


renrut

1,478 posts

235 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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3.0 with a turbo in a Corvette?

That's like putting a water cooled engine in a 911?

Or a diesel engine in a Jaguar?

Or a BMW with front wheel drive?

I'm sure I've forgotten loads of others but can't possibly forget:

Or a TVR made in Germany from American car parts by a Russian 5 yr old?




robinessex

12,012 posts

211 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Look guys, there's a Cobra avaliable for Germany with a 13.8 ltr engine in it. That's more ny cup of tea. If you're going to have a 'big motor', don't muck about. Do it properly.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

193 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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car95 said:
XitUp said:
StottyZr said:
And those of us who like good fuel consumption when driving steady and a lot of power when we want it rolleyes
Doesn't the Corvette do that already?
It certainly does. Lovely 7 litre V8 in the Z06. 24 mpg. V. relaxing to cruise in. Power? Oh, yes.
Oh sorry, I didn't realise it managed a staggering 24mpg at constant motorway speeds. My mistake rolleyes

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

283 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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mackie1 said:
They made 35,000 of them in 2008 so not exactly low volume but pretty small fry compared to the total of all GM cars made.
They only sold about 11,000 cars last year I think and they have never sold more than about 30,000 odd a year, except in a couple of years.

The way they will appeal to younger buyers is to make the cars cheaper, not with smaller engines. I bought a new C5 Z06 on 2003 and it cost approx $50,000 now an equivalent car is double that new. The Corvette has always appealed to the blue collar American workers because it was seen as affordable, now I don't think that is the case which is why Japanese performance cars are so popular with the younger generation, as they are much cheaper to buy and it has little to do with the engine size. so if GM think that by dropping a 3.0L Turbo motor in the car they will attract a younger audience they had better also think about selling the car for a lot less.



dele

1,270 posts

224 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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renrut said:
Or a BMW with front wheel drive?
Are you referring to the Mini? As i dont recall any BMWs i know of being FWD