2012 F1 Silly Season...
2012 F1 Silly Season...
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zaphod42

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59,280 posts

184 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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OK, there many other threads with bits an pieces on drivers and 2012+ Time for one that is more focused...

Who holds the key to the drivers market in 2012 in the larger teams?

It would strike me that from the drivers that are in their final year/or an extension hasn't been announced formally for 2012:

Red Bull: Webber's seat
Ferrari: Massa's seat
Renault Lotus: Heidfeld's seat

Sauber: Is Pérez on one year or two?
Petrov, Button, etc are all on multi year retainers at present, as is Schumacher.

But who is the key driver move in these? Anyone know the key dates? I'm guessing Renault will know in 2 months or so if there is a chance for Kubica to come back and they'll base their moves on that decision?



Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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Lewis Hamilton to join Silverline Chevrolet (replacing Alex MacDowall)
Jason Plato getting the hump at having such a competitive teammate.

That would make fantastic viewing!


(ETA OK not strictly F1 silly season, I admit)


Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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Get Karter said:
Lewis Hamilton to join Silverline Chevrolet (replacing Alex MacDowall)
Jason Plato getting the hump at having such a competitive teammate.

That would make fantastic viewing!


(ETA OK not strictly F1 silly season, I admit)
O/T - when was the last time Plato had a genuine top drive in the same team as him?

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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Rude-boy said:
Get Karter said:
Lewis Hamilton to join Silverline Chevrolet (replacing Alex MacDowall)
Jason Plato getting the hump at having such a competitive teammate.

That would make fantastic viewing!


(ETA OK not strictly F1 silly season, I admit)
O/T - when was the last time Plato had a genuine top drive in the same team as him?
I don't know. Nevertheless, he must be about the best BTCC driver currently competing....but I'd love to see him under presure from an aggressive teammate...to see how he'd react.
I believe Hamilton has a similar racing mind to Plato.
I think it'd be fireworks, and put BTCC back on the map.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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Rude-boy said:
Get Karter said:
Lewis Hamilton to join Silverline Chevrolet (replacing Alex MacDowall)
Jason Plato getting the hump at having such a competitive teammate.

That would make fantastic viewing!


(ETA OK not strictly F1 silly season, I admit)
O/T - when was the last time Plato had a genuine top drive in the same team as him?
Wasnt he at renault with Tim Harvey, and vauxhall with Muller and Thompson? I thought the speed of Thompson was one reason why he vanished from BTCC for a couple of years, and subsequently came back with seat?

JxT

339 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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Di Resta to Merc a cert.

I think Kubica might be back in the car for Heidfeld by the end of the season. If not Senna. Quick Nick not fast enough.

Perez has a one year plus one option for Sauber. If Ferrari want him they can have him, given the engine deal.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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Sutil to get the bullet, or is that at the end of this year?? If so, hulkenberg to replace him at Force India, until schuey retires, again, or rosberg moves on

zaphod42

Original Poster:

59,280 posts

184 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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snowy slopes said:
Sutil to get the bullet, or is that at the end of this year?? If so, hulkenberg to replace him at Force India, until schuey retires, again, or rosberg moves on
Sutil will be suspended or bought out of his coontract by the team if there are any criminal charges pressed.

Hulkenberg or Senna would be great at FI.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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By the way, regarding the Plato and a decent driver thing, his first year was as team mate to Alain Menu, and he was team mate to Yvann Muller at vauxhall

wolfie1978

459 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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I would say the 2 key drives for next season are the second red bull seat and the second ferrari seat. Both webber and massa need to get it together if they're gonna keep them

paulrockliffe

16,557 posts

256 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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Somebody's got to want Kobayashi surely? Left field move to Red Bull? They clearly don't want someone that can beat Vettel, but someone that could cause havoc amongst their rivals would probably be handy.

H100S

1,436 posts

202 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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I can see Rubens also calling time on his F1 career.

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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i've got to say, i'm a fan but so far quick nick has been a bit disappointing - he should at least be comfortably outperforming petrov. if he continues picking up the low points i can't see him in the car next year. possibly senna in, but wouldn't make a good enough pairing with petrov.

massa isn't doing *too* bad, probably enough to keep him in a drive for next year, so ferrari probably sticking as they are.

RBR you've got to think that this is getting close to webber's final year in F1. i can't really see it but i'm thinking nico is probably most likely choice there.

mercedes, schumacher will probably stay, hulk in for rosberg

mclaren, no need to change their line up.

i guess the biggest question mark is kubi. as much as i'd love to see him back, and competitive in 2012, i just can't imagine that it's at all realistic.


Richard-G

1,743 posts

204 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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paulrockliffe said:
Somebody's got to want Kobayashi surely? Left field move to Red Bull? They clearly don't want someone that can beat Vettel, but someone that could cause havoc amongst their rivals would probably be handy.
in reality he has to be the hottest property out there. Young, Could bring in HUGE sponsorship in from Japan and has shown consistancy and amazing racecraft. Also he has only scored 5 less points this season than massa and he had one of his results taken from him!

the one thing that always comes to my mind when i watch him on track is what Brundle Said about him, he is a very aggressive but a very fair driver. I think if it was Kobi in front of lewis instead of Maldonado at st devote i think it would have been minimal contact and a clean overtake by lewis.

zaphod42

Original Poster:

59,280 posts

184 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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Richard-G said:
in reality he has to be the hottest property out there. Young, Could bring in HUGE sponsorship in from Japan and has shown consistancy and amazing racecraft. Also he has only scored 5 less points this season than massa and he had one of his results taken from him!

the one thing that always comes to my mind when i watch him on track is what Brundle Said about him, he is a very aggressive but a very fair driver. I think if it was Kobi in front of lewis instead of Maldonado at st devote i think it would have been minimal contact and a clean overtake by lewis.
I was thinking for a second that there was no brand synergy for Kobi, with redbull/renault.

And then I remembered Infiniti..

The Moose

23,673 posts

238 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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Can't Kimi come back in 2012...

Cheers

The Moose

zaphod42

Original Poster:

59,280 posts

184 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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The Moose said:
Can't Kimi come back in 2012...

Cheers

The Moose
Kimi in a Red Bull? Against Vettel.

Now that would be fun... I think they would push each other to new levels.

thechosenfamily

332 posts

184 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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The only suggestion I am going to make is Di Resta to a big drive.

Although, I feel it will be with Mercedes because of the DTM connection given he is being looked after by LH's Dad you could get a bit of a bidding war go on.

thatone1967

4,247 posts

220 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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H100S said:
I can see Rubens also calling time on his F1 career.
I agree with this.

thatone1967

4,247 posts

220 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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The Moose said:
Can't Kimi come back in 2012...

Cheers

The Moose
Please no!!! When's he was good he was very very good.. but REALLY.. how often was that??