Tornado chips ?
Tornado chips ?
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NewChimBoy

Original Poster:

84 posts

186 months

Sunday 5th June 2011
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Just had car serviced at Hexham HC and asked about engine upgrades. Was advised that a tornado chip from Mark Adams would be worth while considering. Has anyone had one fitted to Chim 400 and if so did you notice any improvement in overall performance ?

tuscan66

255 posts

195 months

Sunday 5th June 2011
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have recently purchased a chimaera 400 with a tornado chip and the reqd mods for correct operation, all I can say is great idle and pulls strong thru all gears all rev ranges seems to help the torque also
comparing to my other chimaeras over the years. Seems to allow pull away in higher gears at less rpm !!! meaning pull away in 3rd or 4th gear!!! not that I practice that
Have to add tho also has perforance leads and power amp in the ignition circuit along with exhaust mod,
smoothest and gruntiest chim Ive had to date...sure others here will have mixed views tho

blitzracing

6,422 posts

251 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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The Tornado chips are very acurately mapped to engine spec' so it minimises the ammount of correction the ECU has to do to keep the engine emmission complient. You cannot however generate more power below 3400 rpm or 2/3 throttle as the fueling is tightly controlled, and you cannot overide this basic fuction of the ECU, but keeping the adjustment to a minimum can make the car less likely snatch,(this can occur when big fueling changes are made to keep the emmissions low) so the car drives better. They also have some nice touches like a slightly raised tickover and the MIL light is enabled when a fault occurs. Another nice touch is they have modified fuel maps for both catalys and non catalyts use as standard, so you just need to change the tune resistor to change the fuel map. The non catalyst fuel map is a lot nicer to drive with, but if you run it with the catalysts it can reduce the physical catalysts life and it wont pass an MOT on emmissions. As for full power above 3400 RPM, the TVR chips are already set for maximum power, so you wont suddenly gain 20 BHP!

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

262 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Do you get a free battered cod with that £400 Chip laughthose best guess maps are miles out !

M@H

11,298 posts

303 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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NewChimBoy said:
Just had car serviced at Hexham HC and asked about engine upgrades. Was advised that a tornado chip from Mark Adams would be worth while considering. Has anyone had one fitted to Chim 400 and if so did you notice any improvement in overall performance ?
Sadly your profile is empty so I don't know your background but if this is your first Chimaera and you've recently got it (guessing by your "handle" and history on here) then why on earth are you considering engine upgrades !? Unless you're a seasoned RWD/TVR driver then the car probably still has loads more performance to show you - its not exactly sluggish.

Brakes and suspension should be on the list way before pumping up the BHP smile

Cheers,
Matt.

V8FROG

444 posts

192 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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DAZ how much is the megasquirt kit from dv8???cause the MA chip is nearly 400pounds i rather save a bit more and get a complete ECU for that price3 dont u think so???

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

262 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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The plug and play can be fuel only or if you want to do the install wiring,wide band lambdas,coil packs etc it will take quite a bit of work..You need to contact EFI EXTRAS..

Mr MoJo

4,698 posts

247 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
Do you get a free battered cod with that £400 Chip laughthose best guess maps are miles out !
Not always, and always spot on when the man himself maps it for you on a RR. Mr Adams gets a big thumbup from me.

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

262 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Yes but you are fighting a loosing battle with out the wasted spark..!

blitzracing

6,422 posts

251 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
Do you get a free battered cod with that £400 Chip laughthose best guess maps are miles out !
You are being somewhat unfair on this one, as it is just that. If you order a chip specifically for your standard and correctly running TVR and ECU (note that bit!) and that has not had the silicon treatment, it will be pretty spot on. I have one on my car, running a non catalyst map and its perfect apart from a very minor rich spot at 2500 at over 80'c under light load. I dont think I would do any better with an MS system on the fuel side. Id agree about wasted spark, but you can by the trigger wheels set up for around £400. I do think its a pity MA does note reduce the price of his chips as the market gets smaller however.


Edited by blitzracing on Monday 6th June 20:20

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

262 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Well i had a best guess map for my new engine ,the Map was pulled from his data base and the results were absolutely abysmal so this tells you that all engines are different ..Six months of calling emailing and no luck so it got ripped out for the Megasquirt..It may be pure luck as alot of you are 100% happy with te best guess map..

Bluejuice70

52 posts

193 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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I have a Mark Adams Tornado chip fitted to my 450, works great and could tell the difference straight away. Also I spoke to Mark before I fitted it for advice, really nice guy and knows his stuff and also happy to give you expert advise on anything you ask him about for free,,,,,,,bow

Thumbs up from me.

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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I cant complain about my MA chip, it done its job, not 100% how I like it but alot of that is down to the crappy Lucas system, but MA will make the most out this crappy system

Simon says

19,462 posts

252 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
Yes but you are fighting a loosing battle with out the wasted spark..!
Don't give wasted spark all the credit Daz it's the mapped ignition doing the biz wink and in all fairness to MA before affordable EMS's it was the only option to get the best from the Lucas CUX system and as said by others on here they are more than happy with the results biggrin your becoming a right Megasquirt snob you are hehe next your be telling us how much HP you've got scratchchin go on you know you want to idea


Edited by Simon says on Tuesday 7th June 12:28

blitzracing

6,422 posts

251 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
Well i had a best guess map for my new engine ,the Map was pulled from his data base and the results were absolutely abysmal so this tells you that all engines are different ..Six months of calling emailing and no luck so it got ripped out for the Megasquirt..It may be pure luck as alot of you are 100% happy with te best guess map..
Yes but those AF ratios you posted where so far out something else had failed on your old 14cux setup, so no amount of shouting about maps shout would have fixed it unless you had fixed the origional fault. You cant blame Mr Adams for that.


Edited by blitzracing on Tuesday 7th June 12:48

rigga

8,807 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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And Daz still dont get that basic fact .... and wouldnt listen when told there was something amiss with his set up .... getting bored with the constant MS fanboy ..... you got shares in tge company now or what ?

Chimpafrolic

9,637 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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We could easily put this one to bed.

I still have the plumbers old 5.0 litre Tornado chip sitting here in front of me if anyone wants to try it?

Amazingly there isn't even any silicone on it laugh

akkabit

48 posts

225 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Dave
I would be interested in trying Daz's old MA chip in my 500 as it only made 252 at Austec the other week and they suggested the car would benefit from an hour on the rr to sort out a timing issue followed by an MA Chip.
Do you know what spec the chip was set up for?

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

262 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Sold everything , it paid for half the Megasquirt stuff ,Dizzy,ECU,Magnacor leads,coil etc etc..It made about 290bhp with the Chip..
Nothing wrong with the 14cux and i would of been happy going down the Mark Adams route..Not pulling it down..Thats how i got the car back after the rebuild and nothing wrong with anything except the Fuel map..

Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Tuesday 7th June 19:16

SILICONEKID340HP

14,997 posts

262 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Chimpafrolic said:
We could easily put this one to bed.

I still have the plumbers old 5.0 litre Tornado chip sitting here in front of me if anyone wants to try it?

Amazingly there isn't even any silicone on it laugh
Did i sell it you ?what did you do in the end..