Spot or Fog?
Spot or Fog?
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Deadfast

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264 posts

195 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Another daft question, but is anyone prepared to hazard a guess as to whether I have fog or spotlights on my V8S? They were manufactured by Ring, but the only identification I can find on them is Halogen RG61 and 1497 and 02B.

They haven't worked since I bought the car, but I'm going to try and have them sorted out tomorrow. They are disconnected so I don't know whether they come on with dipped or main beam. They have a separate switch (which at least illuminates).

Personally, I'm in the dark...ahem

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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spot or fog will have different lens patterns. If the glass has lots of vertical ribs, it's probably a fog - shoort range wide beam. If the lens is almost clear, it's probably a spot - minimal light dispersal.

Easiest way to test is to disconnect the wires, then run a couple of wires briefly straight to the bulb terminals - you'll be able to tell from the shape of the beam, what they are, and therefore how they should be wired up.

but if they have a separate switch they are probably fogs

Deadfast

Original Poster:

264 posts

195 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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That's good then, as that's what I've said they are. Lots of vertical lines!

Cheers.

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

233 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Mine have a seperate switch and are spots - they come on with main beam (along with the yellow light in the switch) irked

bigV8

118 posts

226 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Mine are driving lamps which come on with main beam

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Mine are driving lamps which come on with main beam.

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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some were spots, some were fogs - I don't know why, but there have been threads before that showed that.

The OP needs to figure out what they are, so that he can figure out when they are supposed to be "live". But hang on - didn't he say that the switch illuminates? ideabanghead DUH!

OP - when does the switch illuminate? Side lights, dip or main beam? First 2 means the car is wired as fogs, last one means it's wired as spots.

Life is easier when you read the question properly...

Deadfast

Original Poster:

264 posts

195 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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I am a complete numpty! Of course you're right. The light comes on with main beam only. However, I still have a feeling the lights are fogs.

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

233 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Someone has probably swapped them at some point or TVR put the wrong ones in?

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Barkychoc said:
Someone has probably swapped them at some point or TVR put the wrong ones in?
Both entirely possible, that was why I wanted to figure out how the car was wired, not just what kind of lamps they are.

Mine (admittedly an S3C not a V8) are fogs, wired as fogs - and like all front fog lamps, they serve absolutely no practical use whatsoever.

ketvrin

3,504 posts

238 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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tvrgit said:
and like all front fog lamps, they serve absolutely no practical use whatsoever.
I thought that some (not on Tivs of course)were wired up to come on in all weathers during day or night, aligned to blind oncoming drivers to indicate that the driver is a Chav ? am I wrong ?

K hehe

Edited by ketvrin on Tuesday 7th June 12:14

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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ketvrin said:
I thought that some (not on Tivs of course)were wired up to come on in all weathers during day or night, aligned to blind oncoming drivers to indicate that the driver is a Chav ? am I wrong ?

K hehe
Indeed. Specified in the brochures, I believe, as "w***er lights" to alert the rest of the driving population, when the baseball cap and simian driving position might not be immediately apparent.

Deadfast

Original Poster:

264 posts

195 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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And the answer is...fogs wired as spots, directly into the main beam wiring, thus probably drawing too much current and blowing the fuse. However, they now work. Will be interesting to see how completely ineffective they will be if I ever take the car out in the dark! Thumbs up to Cornwall Auto Technics in Helston who sorted that out, and cleared out the mess of useless and unnecessary connectors.

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Have you looked at *how* they're wired?

Mine were the correct lamp type wired as driving lamps, which is great. But they were power by a relay which is controlled by the headlamp circuit and fed power to the switch which then supplied the lamps.

There's a relay _right there_. Why not use the switch to control the relay, and use the relay to power the lamps? That way the switch won't burn out and if there's any problem you just replace the cheap easily replaced relay instead of the expensive and hard-to-replace switch. But no, TVR had to do it the other way. Bless 'em.

Deadfast

Original Poster:

264 posts

195 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Yikes. No, I left that to them. I became more concerned with why the oil pressure suddenly dropped on the way home...