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I'm stuck! Please consider these facts and advise me!
Fact 1) The Nikon D70 comes as body-only or with an 18-70 lens.
Fact 2) I already have a Nikkor 24-50mm lens which was expensive at £350. On a DSLR it will a rather puny 36-75. By contrast the 18-70 will cover 27-135mm.
Fact 3) I can get the body + 18-70 for £140 more than the body alone. But then I'll have a redundant £350 lens which I'm unlikely to be able to sell for any great amount.
Option 1 is to get the body with 18-70 lens.
Option 2 is to get the body only, keep the 24-50 and buy a second-hand prime wide angle.
Or is there an option 3?
Fact 1) The Nikon D70 comes as body-only or with an 18-70 lens.
Fact 2) I already have a Nikkor 24-50mm lens which was expensive at £350. On a DSLR it will a rather puny 36-75. By contrast the 18-70 will cover 27-135mm.
Fact 3) I can get the body + 18-70 for £140 more than the body alone. But then I'll have a redundant £350 lens which I'm unlikely to be able to sell for any great amount.
Option 1 is to get the body with 18-70 lens.
Option 2 is to get the body only, keep the 24-50 and buy a second-hand prime wide angle.
Or is there an option 3?
The prime lens option will give you better image quality and you could also pick up a 2nd hand prime of about 135 0r 150mm that, again, would give you better image quality over zoom. However, you will have to lug around and change 3 lenses. The 18-70mm will be a lot more convenient with a good practical zoom range and still, I suspect, give good enough quality for your needs.
You won't get the money back for your 24-70mm but it does have some value that you could offset against purchase of the 18-70mm. I suspect if you kept the 36-70mm it would frustrate; the 36mm end not being wide enough and the 75mm not being long enough.
Is the £140 extra for the 18-70 a special 'bundle' price? If the lens is more expensive to buy separately even more reason to take the offer.
All IMHO, hope it helps.
You won't get the money back for your 24-70mm but it does have some value that you could offset against purchase of the 18-70mm. I suspect if you kept the 36-70mm it would frustrate; the 36mm end not being wide enough and the 75mm not being long enough.
Is the £140 extra for the 18-70 a special 'bundle' price? If the lens is more expensive to buy separately even more reason to take the offer.
All IMHO, hope it helps.
V6GTO said:
Option 3?
Get a good system...buy Canon!![]()
Sorry mate. Someone was going to say it so I thought it might as well be sooner rather than later. Martin.
I think you'll find the D70 leaves the rival 300D in the herbage somewhat, and only got pipped by the much more expensive 10D because it doesn't do ISO100.
Cue 'It's all gone quiet over there...'
Arf arf!
I found this review by Andy Rouse - he rates the D70 pretty highly it seems! www.warehouseexpress.com/arouse/d70.html
ehasler said:
I found this review by Andy Rouse - he rates the D70 pretty highly it seems! www.warehouseexpress.com/arouse/d70.html
Yeah, but he's a nob....
I must admit I'd be tempted to go for the bundle. The new lens is an AFS with the slient wave motor built in which gives lovely fast and silent focussing, huge improvement over the straight AF lenses. Also its ED glass (very low chromatic aberation) so you should get top quality images.
One word of caution it is a G type lens and so does not have the traditional Nikon aperture ring control which sits next to the body, aperture control is completely electronic. It is also specifically desgined for the digital series of SLRs. Thus if you use a film Nikon as a back up you could run into two issues;
1) Vinegetting as the image circle will cover the whole of the digital sensor but not the whole of a 35mm film neg as the digital sensor is smaller than the film neg. This will probably only be at the very wide angle end. Lens should work Ok on F5, F65 etc in tersm of actually focussing etc.
2) Doesn't work at all. Only an issue if you have an older AF (F801 etc) or a manual FM2, F3 etc as a backup.
If you're not going to have a backup then definitely go for the bundle offer.
Why it took Nikon so long to introduce these I don't know. My credit card is cowering with fear for the day they ever manage to release the 80-400 VR with the slient wave motor. It's in the Pro spec 70-200 f2.8 now, so give it a couple of years
Then try and get shot of the zoom on either ebay or an ad in one of the photo mags should yield you some cash.
On the other thing we talked about yesterday as they say "cheque's in the post".
Chris

One word of caution it is a G type lens and so does not have the traditional Nikon aperture ring control which sits next to the body, aperture control is completely electronic. It is also specifically desgined for the digital series of SLRs. Thus if you use a film Nikon as a back up you could run into two issues;
1) Vinegetting as the image circle will cover the whole of the digital sensor but not the whole of a 35mm film neg as the digital sensor is smaller than the film neg. This will probably only be at the very wide angle end. Lens should work Ok on F5, F65 etc in tersm of actually focussing etc.
2) Doesn't work at all. Only an issue if you have an older AF (F801 etc) or a manual FM2, F3 etc as a backup.
If you're not going to have a backup then definitely go for the bundle offer.
Why it took Nikon so long to introduce these I don't know. My credit card is cowering with fear for the day they ever manage to release the 80-400 VR with the slient wave motor. It's in the Pro spec 70-200 f2.8 now, so give it a couple of years

Then try and get shot of the zoom on either ebay or an ad in one of the photo mags should yield you some cash.
On the other thing we talked about yesterday as they say "cheque's in the post".
Chris

Even if you won't get back the £350 you paid for the 24-50, you should have a good chance of getting most of £140 for it - covering the cost of the new lens.
As suggested above, try ebay. I recently sold some elderly (and not too special) MF pentax lenses there, I was pleasantly surprised by how much I got.
As suggested above, try ebay. I recently sold some elderly (and not too special) MF pentax lenses there, I was pleasantly surprised by how much I got.
John
I think you have taken the right option. That lens does get rave reviews and as you say for day to day use far more useful.
If you are not aware of this site would recommend it www.nikonians.com the commentary in the message boards is more professional than other sites!
As for the Nikon vs Canon arguement at that price range the Nikon tanks the Canon equivalent.
Personally I think the arguement is futile if you and your clients are happy with the results does it really matter whether it is a Nikon or a Canon, the only time perhaps consideration should be given is if you are starting out and have no lenses to fit either brand. To change from one to the other can be a very expensive exercise especially if you have a lot of 'glass'
Steve
a happy Nikon owner with F5's and a recently acquired D2h which is nothing short of amazing
I think you have taken the right option. That lens does get rave reviews and as you say for day to day use far more useful.
If you are not aware of this site would recommend it www.nikonians.com the commentary in the message boards is more professional than other sites!
As for the Nikon vs Canon arguement at that price range the Nikon tanks the Canon equivalent.
Personally I think the arguement is futile if you and your clients are happy with the results does it really matter whether it is a Nikon or a Canon, the only time perhaps consideration should be given is if you are starting out and have no lenses to fit either brand. To change from one to the other can be a very expensive exercise especially if you have a lot of 'glass'
Steve
a happy Nikon owner with F5's and a recently acquired D2h which is nothing short of amazing
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