1967 "Tuscan" with a 4.2 V8?
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I spotted this yesterday, it was done by a new member as a wiki in General TVR. I did ask the moderators to move it, but it disappeared...
This gives a bit more info
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2441/tuscan0071...
Which shows a SWB body in the process of restoration.
Firstly the VIN number looks wrong. 200, LWB, MAL or LVX
As suggested the 4.2 is nore Sunbeam than TVR.
The registration would be well into the M series.
I know Coupes were a TVR dealer, even as late as 1990.
(Did they become Tower View? - Terminator?)
TDL933 said:
A friend here in France has bought at auction a V8 Tuscan registered WOO 719 S. You will note that this is dated some 10 years after the date of manufacture. VIN is TUS/1101/GB568. To compound the foregoing mystery the bonnet is 10 inches longer than usual and a 4.2 litre was installed at date of V5 rather than the expected 4.7. That engine size suggests Tiger rather than Cobra. There does seem to be some early TVR expertise here, mine stopped at the Mk 1 Grantura of which I've had two, one in 1960 and one in 2008 so who knows about the Tuscans?
A search on google brings up a similar post on http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=14...This gives a bit more info
francoisb123 said:
A French friend of mine bought some month ago, during a -french also- auction, a TVR tuscan V8 wich some history is missing:
Registred WOO 719S
Win is TUS/1101/68568
Last owners known are :
"coupes of london" (?)25 sheldon RD, London
And before: JW PASQUALE, Tadworth.
No history could be found, even by owner's UK friends, before 1977, so about 10 years history missing
There is also a link to a pictureRegistred WOO 719S
Win is TUS/1101/68568
Last owners known are :
"coupes of london" (?)25 sheldon RD, London
And before: JW PASQUALE, Tadworth.
No history could be found, even by owner's UK friends, before 1977, so about 10 years history missing
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2441/tuscan0071...
Which shows a SWB body in the process of restoration.
Firstly the VIN number looks wrong. 200, LWB, MAL or LVX
As suggested the 4.2 is nore Sunbeam than TVR.
The registration would be well into the M series.
I know Coupes were a TVR dealer, even as late as 1990.
(Did they become Tower View? - Terminator?)
davepen said:
TDL933 said:
...a 4.2 litre was installed at date of V5 rather than the expected 4.7. That engine size suggests Tiger rather than Cobra.
As suggested the 4.2 is nore Sunbeam than TVR.To me, that pic shows extra distance between the front wheel arch and the door pillar.
B.
Dave Wallis, of Coupés and Tower View Racing fame, bought the car in the late 1980s from Joe Pasquale, of TV fame. It was advertised in Sprint and he beat me to it 
It had a Rover V8 back then and had fittings for left hand and right hand drive. The chassis number was an oddball and it appeared to be based on a Vixen S1 body but Dave insisted it was a Tuscan prototype. I followed him to Zolder one year and, although he never took it round the circuit, it was very quick.
I always wondered what happened to it, now we know.
It had a Rover V8 back then and had fittings for left hand and right hand drive. The chassis number was an oddball and it appeared to be based on a Vixen S1 body but Dave insisted it was a Tuscan prototype. I followed him to Zolder one year and, although he never took it round the circuit, it was very quick.
I always wondered what happened to it, now we know.
Just as a matter of interest I followed up the Joe Pasquale lead and had a reply saying that Joe had never had either the car in question or any other TVR Tuscan
Which begs the question is the V5 real or a forgery, perhaps even a genuine document acquired through incompetence or dishonesty?
Which begs the question is the V5 real or a forgery, perhaps even a genuine document acquired through incompetence or dishonesty?
TDL933 said:
Just as a matter of interest I followed up the Joe Pasquale lead and had a reply saying that Joe had never had either the car in question or any other TVR Tuscan
Which begs the question is the V5 real or a forgery, perhaps even a genuine document acquired through incompetence or dishonesty?
John, I suspect no forgery or dishonesty, at least as far as the document is concerned. The registered owner of "your" car was Joseph William Pasquale and the one who unfortunately escaped from the jungle was Joseph Ellis Pasquale. William was from Kent and Ellis was an Essex boy, note both from opposite banks of the Thames.Which begs the question is the V5 real or a forgery, perhaps even a genuine document acquired through incompetence or dishonesty?
In the 1930,s there was a tsunami hit the Pacific atoll of Pasqualiland and all the inhabitants escaped death in a small boat. This obviously drifted for months and were finally washed up near the not yet built Thames barrier. At low tide (because they were all very small and couldn,t swim) the castaways scattered both left and right only to dissapear into the local communities and subsequently breed. Because it was such a small remote island with no ferry there was much inbreeding and all the islanders were called Pasquali, all the males being Josephs. their middle names the only way to tell them apart.
If all of that is true then you probably have a 1977 prototype of a 1967 car. If it all sounds wrong you may have a long wheel base chassis with a short wheel base body with extended front wings and lengthened bonnet and a 1977 3000M indentity.
Ps, there are enough squeeks and funny noises from an old TVR, cant see any "added value" by adding more.
Comment would appear superfluous save that Terminator categorically states that the car was bought from the TV bloke, he was told that by Dave Whatisname from Coupes of London.
Would you buy a used car from this man? The answer to that question is probably no, which possibly is why Coupes of London has closed its doors.
Would you buy a used car from this man? The answer to that question is probably no, which possibly is why Coupes of London has closed its doors.
Edited by TDL933 on Friday 8th July 19:23
Either way...and regardless of who said what..The car is a load of b
ks with a dodgy identity put together from bits of different cars and chassis, with compromised panels to make it look like a complete bag of ste! The only redeemable possibility of increasing its value over that of a spares source IE by linking it to a High pitched voiced also ran comedian from the North bank of the Thames also looks dubious!!
N.
ks with a dodgy identity put together from bits of different cars and chassis, with compromised panels to make it look like a complete bag of ste! The only redeemable possibility of increasing its value over that of a spares source IE by linking it to a High pitched voiced also ran comedian from the North bank of the Thames also looks dubious!!N.
heightswitch said:
Either way...and regardless of who said what..The car is a load of bks with a dodgy identity put together from bits of different cars and chassis, with compromised panels to make it look like a complete bag of ste! The only redeemable possibility of increasing its value over that of a spares source IE by linking it to a High pitched voiced also ran comedian from the North bank of the Thames also looks dubious!!
N.
I totally agree with you, according to Francois, who asked me to investigate on behalf of the purchaser, not a lot of money is involved. As to being a source of spares, the one person whose judgement I respect,is of the opinion that few of the constituent parts ever saw Blackpool.ks with a dodgy identity put together from bits of different cars and chassis, with compromised panels to make it look like a complete bag of ste! The only redeemable possibility of increasing its value over that of a spares source IE by linking it to a High pitched voiced also ran comedian from the North bank of the Thames also looks dubious!!N.
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