Loo cistern - swap handle flush for push button
Discussion
Bathroom loo doesnt always flush 1st pump of the handle - i can do it but the kids/wife are moaning that they flush it a few times and it doesnt work but as it uses a bit of water they then have to wait for it to fill.
They refuse to learn the "pump the handle fast" technique i have mastered so it needs sorting.
Our others loos have push button flushes so can i fit that type to my loo and have the button mounted where the handle went????? or...not?
And is it a sensible DIYer job (either fitting a push button or just swapping for a working "normal" handle type?)
They refuse to learn the "pump the handle fast" technique i have mastered so it needs sorting.
Our others loos have push button flushes so can i fit that type to my loo and have the button mounted where the handle went????? or...not?
And is it a sensible DIYer job (either fitting a push button or just swapping for a working "normal" handle type?)
http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-leak-sentry-...
http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-button-cable...
The issue will be whether the button is small enough to fit through the existing handle hole.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-button-cable...
The issue will be whether the button is small enough to fit through the existing handle hole.
I did this job for the GF at the weekend for the same reasons. Bought an internal cistern off fleabay for £25 and swapped it over, it was a push button, so the hole in the unit where the original lever poked through had to be enlarged slightly to accomodate the push button and the inlet supply had to be re-routed, but if you have a flexi-hose no bother, otherwise an easy job and i ain't no plumber!
dickymint said:
No need to change it, fix the one yoy've got. The one way valve is probably shagged. Usually it's just a sheet of flimsy plastic that has split and can easily be repaired with some tape. I'll find a link for you..........
I did this repair, didn't last long though, plus if it's like the old cistern i replaced, there was no internal overflow, well there was no overflow at all and the house is only ten years old!miniman said:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-leak-sentry-...
http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-button-cable...
The issue will be whether the button is small enough to fit through the existing handle hole.
Cool - bought the bottom one with the button.http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-button-cable...
The issue will be whether the button is small enough to fit through the existing handle hole.
That probably won't fit through the existing hole.
Replace your old syphon with one of these.
It has internal overflow and can be separated, by pulling the yellow pin. So if the diaphragm goes on it you can change it in seconds.
It is probably only a diaphragm you need for your existing syphon, they are pennies from any plumbers merchants.
Replace your old syphon with one of these.
It has internal overflow and can be separated, by pulling the yellow pin. So if the diaphragm goes on it you can change it in seconds.
It is probably only a diaphragm you need for your existing syphon, they are pennies from any plumbers merchants.
For what it's worth, flush valves are FAR less reliable than syphons. Hard water scale stops their moving parts sliding correcly and build-up of bits on the washer mean they can let water run constantly into the pan after a few months, often un-noticed as a trickle.. Aftermarket conversions are often unsightly as the button on almost all sits outside the cistern, not through the hole. I'd fit a nice two-part syphon as in the picture above. It's worth bearing in mind that you get what you pay for with syphons and some are just rubbish.
From the Screwfix reviews above:" If replacing a front lever with this push button be aware the button protrudes and may stop the toilet seat and lid being kept in the upright position"
From the Screwfix reviews above:" If replacing a front lever with this push button be aware the button protrudes and may stop the toilet seat and lid being kept in the upright position"
Arthur Jackson said:
For what it's worth, flush valves are FAR less reliable than syphons. Hard water scale stops their moving parts sliding correcly and build-up of bits on the washer mean they can let water run constantly into the pan after a few months, often un-noticed as a trickle.. Aftermarket conversions are often unsightly as the button on almost all sits outside the cistern, not through the hole. I'd fit a nice two-part syphon as in the picture above. It's worth bearing in mind that you get what you pay for with syphons and some are just rubbish.
From the Screwfix reviews above:" If replacing a front lever with this push button be aware the button protrudes and may stop the toilet seat and lid being kept in the upright position"
Fair points but...From the Screwfix reviews above:" If replacing a front lever with this push button be aware the button protrudes and may stop the toilet seat and lid being kept in the upright position"
a) I dont care about a trickle of water!
b) the handle sticks out far more than any button will!
5 years into Grohe concealed air-push cisterns here. Brilliant design, slim, lovely action. Makes the current design dating back to Thomas Crapper look prehistoric!
None of this 'elephant about to sneeze' noise either, just push the button, bosh, flushed. Refills quickly and silently.
None of this 'elephant about to sneeze' noise either, just push the button, bosh, flushed. Refills quickly and silently.
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