3D films (cinema) - yay, or nay?
Discussion
Almost inevitable that the "blockbusters" are 3d nowadays, and the last few films I've seen... Well, underwhelmed I guess is the right word.
Works better on animated rather than live action stuff, where to me it just looks like a series of cardboard cutouts at various depth levels, certainly not enough to suspend disbelief, and actually detracts from the movie because it looks so false.
Also, the glasses rob you of brightness and contrast.
Saw Kung Fu Panda 2 yesterday in 3d, and while some of the scenes clearly benefited, and the vistas were stunning, it really hamstrings the fighting, where the clarity is lost and it's like the 3d can't keep pace almost. Definitely one for 2d Blu-ray methinks.
Works better on animated rather than live action stuff, where to me it just looks like a series of cardboard cutouts at various depth levels, certainly not enough to suspend disbelief, and actually detracts from the movie because it looks so false.
Also, the glasses rob you of brightness and contrast.
Saw Kung Fu Panda 2 yesterday in 3d, and while some of the scenes clearly benefited, and the vistas were stunning, it really hamstrings the fighting, where the clarity is lost and it's like the 3d can't keep pace almost. Definitely one for 2d Blu-ray methinks.
I'm not a fan.
I (like the rest of the planet I guess) saw Avatar in 3d and spent 3 hours going "oooo, ahhhh" like it was a fireworks display, waving my hand in front of my face like a tool and came back from it thinking it was a great film, but when I watched it again at home on Blueray with my GF (who didn't see it in 3d) and we both agreed it's pretty poor, over-long and boring.
Lots of very bad mainstream films being made at the moment, simply because they're in 3D you soon get bored of people on screen holding things out at funny angles and stuff flying towards the screen simply to show it off.
I don't have a problem with the glasses, but the technology isn't perfect, it gets fuzzy at certain angles, the colours look wrong sometimes and gives me pretty bad eye strain after a few hours.
I (like the rest of the planet I guess) saw Avatar in 3d and spent 3 hours going "oooo, ahhhh" like it was a fireworks display, waving my hand in front of my face like a tool and came back from it thinking it was a great film, but when I watched it again at home on Blueray with my GF (who didn't see it in 3d) and we both agreed it's pretty poor, over-long and boring.
Lots of very bad mainstream films being made at the moment, simply because they're in 3D you soon get bored of people on screen holding things out at funny angles and stuff flying towards the screen simply to show it off.
I don't have a problem with the glasses, but the technology isn't perfect, it gets fuzzy at certain angles, the colours look wrong sometimes and gives me pretty bad eye strain after a few hours.
randlemarcus said:
What gets my goat is the blatant profiteering by the cinema - glasses (fair enough, be rubbish without them), plus a £2/3 3D fee. Feck orff. The last film I saw wasn't available in 2D, so why do I have to pay the fee?
Pretty much the same feeling here,I would agree that it seems to be the cartoons(animated films) that really work rather than the normal ones.after seeing a few movies in 3D now, both RealD, Dolby 3D and IMAX I can conclude that unless the movie is going to be shown at an IMAX, ill pay for the 2D version thanks.
For me IMAX is the only place 3D really works well thanks to the screen completely dwarfing your vision, the insane film size and how much more poweful the projector lamps are. Its just a nicer experience. In a normal cinema the geggs cut the brightness of the film significantly.
I will say that I think Dolby's method looks better than the RealD method of polarised lenses. Dolby use an extra colour wheel on the projector and you get some cool specs that work a bit like the old school two colour 3D only its not read an green haha... its more like a yellow and shade of steel that are actually quite close to each other. Its just a bit nicer on the eyes and the picture seems a bit more natural and warm. Still thats all for nought if the cinema your in has b
ks stereo sound, a tiny screen and room that was too well lit during the movie. The mirror finish on the Dolby Specs had me looking at the guys sat behind me out the corner of my eye. I had to sit in the cinema with my hood up to block out glare and reflections!!!
With ReaLD some of the scenes look a bit juddery and not fluid, not as fluid as the Dolby system.... but again it doesnt really work that well on small screens. The screen has to take over your whole field of view otherwise you have real world 3D objects to look at and thus whats on the screen looks a bit odd. Focal planes are odd too.
and it doesnt help that a lot of movies have simply been through a computer program to add the 3D on as an after thought with the sole aim of charging people an extra £2-3 for some uncomfortable glasses that you have to give back at the end!! I know the Dolby and IMax specs are quite expensive so handing them back is ok, but the RealD jobs cost a few pence... i'd rather keep em thanks and use them again.
last 3D films I went to see were thor and pirates 4 and it added the square root of sod all to the movies. Me and gf have decided to stop going to 3D screenings because I cant believe I wouldnt have enjoyed the film just as much in normal cinema vision. However Avatar and Tron at the IMAX rocked my world, even though Tron wasnt 3D all the way through... I guess the good thing about IMAX is that when there isnt any good 3D, the sheer size of the film and the screen is enough to keep the wow factor going. Worst film I have seen in 3D.... alice in wonder land. It was a garbage movie made 100X worse by crappy after the fact 3D enhancements.
For me IMAX is the only place 3D really works well thanks to the screen completely dwarfing your vision, the insane film size and how much more poweful the projector lamps are. Its just a nicer experience. In a normal cinema the geggs cut the brightness of the film significantly.
I will say that I think Dolby's method looks better than the RealD method of polarised lenses. Dolby use an extra colour wheel on the projector and you get some cool specs that work a bit like the old school two colour 3D only its not read an green haha... its more like a yellow and shade of steel that are actually quite close to each other. Its just a bit nicer on the eyes and the picture seems a bit more natural and warm. Still thats all for nought if the cinema your in has b
ks stereo sound, a tiny screen and room that was too well lit during the movie. The mirror finish on the Dolby Specs had me looking at the guys sat behind me out the corner of my eye. I had to sit in the cinema with my hood up to block out glare and reflections!!!With ReaLD some of the scenes look a bit juddery and not fluid, not as fluid as the Dolby system.... but again it doesnt really work that well on small screens. The screen has to take over your whole field of view otherwise you have real world 3D objects to look at and thus whats on the screen looks a bit odd. Focal planes are odd too.
and it doesnt help that a lot of movies have simply been through a computer program to add the 3D on as an after thought with the sole aim of charging people an extra £2-3 for some uncomfortable glasses that you have to give back at the end!! I know the Dolby and IMax specs are quite expensive so handing them back is ok, but the RealD jobs cost a few pence... i'd rather keep em thanks and use them again.
last 3D films I went to see were thor and pirates 4 and it added the square root of sod all to the movies. Me and gf have decided to stop going to 3D screenings because I cant believe I wouldnt have enjoyed the film just as much in normal cinema vision. However Avatar and Tron at the IMAX rocked my world, even though Tron wasnt 3D all the way through... I guess the good thing about IMAX is that when there isnt any good 3D, the sheer size of the film and the screen is enough to keep the wow factor going. Worst film I have seen in 3D.... alice in wonder land. It was a garbage movie made 100X worse by crappy after the fact 3D enhancements.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Monday 13th June 22:37
Apart from the few films that use 3D digital camers to film them (basically Avatar then), its a gimmick.
Tron legacy uses 3D in the bits when they go to 'the grid' and tbh you don't notice it, i have it on blue ray and its better. The darkening of the screen is the worst, Avatar on my telly and PS3 at home is a much brighter film!
Its making film costs creep uo as well, it used to be about £6.50 for 2D and £8:50 for 3D, now its about £8 for normal, and £10 for 3D, its getting silly, its just me and the GF who go, so its not too bad, but if you had a family of 4 say, its getting ludicrous, especially with sweets involved.
The annoying thing is, my mate works in a cinema, and Popcorn pays for everything, as the mark up is something silly like 300%, the thing is, most people know this and get annoyed that cinema ticket costs keep rising.
Just sell the tickets cheap, and make a bood deal for popcorn and juice, but not just for super sized portions.
Folk usually shell out for popcorn and sweets, but if the ticket price is breaking the £10 barrier, they dont bother, if the tickets were £5, they tend to just buy sweets as they have the ticket in hand now.
Or am i barking up the wrong tree?
Tron legacy uses 3D in the bits when they go to 'the grid' and tbh you don't notice it, i have it on blue ray and its better. The darkening of the screen is the worst, Avatar on my telly and PS3 at home is a much brighter film!
Its making film costs creep uo as well, it used to be about £6.50 for 2D and £8:50 for 3D, now its about £8 for normal, and £10 for 3D, its getting silly, its just me and the GF who go, so its not too bad, but if you had a family of 4 say, its getting ludicrous, especially with sweets involved.
The annoying thing is, my mate works in a cinema, and Popcorn pays for everything, as the mark up is something silly like 300%, the thing is, most people know this and get annoyed that cinema ticket costs keep rising.
Just sell the tickets cheap, and make a bood deal for popcorn and juice, but not just for super sized portions.
Folk usually shell out for popcorn and sweets, but if the ticket price is breaking the £10 barrier, they dont bother, if the tickets were £5, they tend to just buy sweets as they have the ticket in hand now.
Or am i barking up the wrong tree?
My local Vue now charges a £4.80 per ticket fee for 3D films on top of the £8.30 ticket price, so £26.20 for two of us to watch a movie. Add in the £1.95 for the VIP seating so you don't sit with the chaff and you're up to over 30 quid. I think we'll go for Lovefilm now instead. Shame really because I love the cinema.
I've yet to experience a 3D film in the cinema, but if it is anything like the 3DS or the TV demos I've seen in stores (with the glasses), then I'd be one of those lucky people who'd end up with a banging headache. Hate the bloody effect, it just never seems to work for me.
We'll be heading to the cinema to see Cars 2 when its released, ties in perfectly with the birthday of my youngest, he'll be 3. And we'll have to find a 2D showing, as the little blighter will definitely not sit there with the glasses on for more than a few seconds.
We'll be heading to the cinema to see Cars 2 when its released, ties in perfectly with the birthday of my youngest, he'll be 3. And we'll have to find a 2D showing, as the little blighter will definitely not sit there with the glasses on for more than a few seconds.
Matt.. said:
The mere fact that you have to wear glasses makes it a gimmick to me.
I also have terrible eyesight where my right eye is much more powerful than my left, so i don't think it would work for me anyway!
My left is more powerful than my right, and I still saw the 3d effects in chavatar; give it a go in the theatre.I also have terrible eyesight where my right eye is much more powerful than my left, so i don't think it would work for me anyway!
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